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    http://www.2theadvocate.com/news/suburban/6585262.html


    Three guards arrested in shooting

    Obstruction, gunplay alleged outside eatery

    By JARED JANES
    Advocate staff writer
    Published: Mar 20, 2007

    Three security guards have been arrested in connection with a shooting earlier this month outside a Towne Center restaurant where they worked.

    Deandar Jemar Turner, 22, Christopher Charles Jackson, 21, and John Christopher Clairborne, 24, were arrested Friday in the March 9 shooting outside Champps Americana restaurant and bar, 7425 Corporate Blvd. No one was seriously injured in the shooting.

    A Sheriff’s Office investigation revealed that a patron, later arrested for aggravated battery, entered Champps with a crowbar after he was escorted from the building and punched by Turner.

    The patron hit Turner with the crowbar and left the restaurant with a friend, the warrant said. The patron’s name was not mentioned in the warrant, and a deputy could not provide his name Monday.

    Turner is accused of chasing after the patron and firing shots from a .380-caliber handgun in the direction of the patron.

    Then, along with Jackson and Clairborne, Turner is accused of trying to cover up the shooting before deputies arrived.

    Deputies say Turner gave his handgun to Jackson, who tried to conceal it in his trousers. Also, shell casings were taken from the scene and hidden in a flower pot.

    Clairborne is accused of lying to deputies about firing his own .40-caliber handgun at the patron, according to the warrant.

    The three told deputies that Clairborne returned fire only after the patron started shooting from the parking lot, according to the warrant.

    Turner, 4634 Underwood Ave., was booked into Parish Prison on counts of attempted first-degree murder and obstruction of justice.

    Clairborne, 7811 Gov. Blanchard Drive, and Jackson, 3834 St. Gerard Ave., were booked into Parish Prison on counts of obstruction of justice and accessory after the fact to attempted first-degree murder.

    Turner was not registered with the Louisiana State Board of Private Security Examiners after he was fired from a security company in July 2006 for not showing up to work, board spokesman Wayne Rogilio said.

    Rogilio said Clairborne was the only guard registered with the state governing board.

    He said he dispatched an investigator on Monday to check into the incident.
    Hospital Security Officer

  • #2
    would never happen in jamaica. cops and security are one against the bad guys.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Rasta
      would never happen in jamaica. cops and security are one against the bad guys.
      Please don't come on this forum and undertake to tell us anything about this subject from Jamaica, which has the highest rate of police killings of civilians in the world, averaging over 140 per year in that tiny nation. Many of these killings are nothing but undisguised or thinly-disguised extrajudicial executions carried out by the police, sometimes in collusion with security forces.

      So, if you're here to learn, fine, but if you think you're going to teach us Lessons from Jamaica, sit back down and don't get me started on that subject!
      "Every betrayal begins with trust." - Brian Jacques

      "I can't predict the future, but I know that it'll be very weird." - Anonymous

      "There is nothing new under the sun." - Ecclesiastes 1:9

      "History, with all its volumes vast, hath but one page." - Lord Byron

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      • #4
        A Sheriff’s Office investigation revealed that a patron, later arrested for aggravated battery, entered Champps with a crowbar after he was escorted from the building and punched by Turner.

        I think we just found out where BoxerGuard works.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by SecTrainer
          Please don't come on this forum and undertake to tell us anything about this subject from Jamaica, which has the highest rate of police killings of civilians in the world, averaging over 140 per year in that tiny nation. Many of these killings are nothing but undisguised or thinly-disguised extrajudicial executions carried out by the police, sometimes in collusion with security forces.

          So, if you're here to learn, fine, but if you think you're going to teach us Lessons from Jamaica, sit back down and don't get me started on that subject!

          Rasta is a troll. Ignore him.
          I enforce rules and regulations, not laws.
          Security Officers. The 1st First Responders.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by SecTrainer
            Please don't come on this forum and undertake to tell us anything about this subject from Jamaica, which has the highest rate of !
            My country is better than yours, so SIMMER DOWN!!!!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Rasta
              My country is better than yours, so SIMMER DOWN!!!!
              Southern California is a country?
              "To win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the highest skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the highest skill." Sun-Tzu

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              • #8
                Originally posted by davis002
                Southern California is a country?
                The People's Republic of California is a separate country, yes.
                Some Kind of Commando Leader

                "Every time I see another crazy Florida post, I'm glad I don't work there." ~ Minneapolis Security on Florida Security Law

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                • #9
                  It should be remembered when engaging in an argument with a fool insure the fool is not likewise engaged.
                  When we say anything in response to a fool or an idiot, they drool with childish relish that we have responded. Right now, I might be doing both, much to my discredit.
                  Enjoy the day,
                  Bill

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                  • #10
                    Breathing is a Good Thing in this Profession.

                    Wow...this story sounds like a bunch of rent-a-cops got too big for their britches. No wonder they're always telling us "don't be a cowboy".

                    It's amazing how willing some people are to use physical force. In the short time I've worked in security (a little over a year), I've noticed that some guards think everything can be solved by violence, and just get worn out with the job. In the past two days, I've had someone kick me in the throat, and then the next day he tried to stab one of the nurses and myself. But even that situation didn't require any overt force to calm the patient/attacker and diffuse the situation...and I'm a 4'11, 20 year-old female. It's not as if I present that intimidating of a figure!

                    Don't get me wrong. I do believe we should always, always be on our toes. The entire time we spoke with said male who attacked (an elderly man, but one of many who has tried to harm staff), I was within reach of the arm holding the "weapon" (a pen), but smiling and talking to him with two other nurses until he finally calmed down. There's something to be said about patience and actually caring about your job AND the wellbeing of others.

                    That, and not taking what some people say personally. Such as people in these forums trying to get a rise out of others by stating such random remarks about countries that have nothing to do with the article, and then refusing to back up their belief with evidence.

                    If there is one thing that I learned, a smile accompanied by the same type of patience you would give a child can go a very long way in this world.

                    "Speak softly and carry a big stick."
                    Well...at least it's not a desk job.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by davis002
                      Southern California is a country?
                      Yes it is, I am not surprised that you didn't even know that.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Sarin
                        Wow...this story sounds like a bunch of rent-a-cops got too big for their britches. No wonder they're always telling us "don't be a cowboy".

                        It's amazing how willing some people are to use physical force. In the short time I've worked in security (a little over a year), I've noticed that some guards think everything can be solved by violence, and just get worn out with the job. In the past two days, I've had someone kick me in the throat, and then the next day he tried to stab one of the nurses and myself. But even that situation didn't require any overt force to calm the patient/attacker and diffuse the situation...and I'm a 4'11, 20 year-old female. It's not as if I present that intimidating of a figure!

                        Don't get me wrong. I do believe we should always, always be on our toes. The entire time we spoke with said male who attacked (an elderly man, but one of many who has tried to harm staff), I was within reach of the arm holding the "weapon" (a pen), but smiling and talking to him with two other nurses until he finally calmed down. There's something to be said about patience and actually caring about your job AND the wellbeing of others.

                        That, and not taking what some people say personally. Such as people in these forums trying to get a rise out of others by stating such random remarks about countries that have nothing to do with the article, and then refusing to back up their belief with evidence.

                        If there is one thing that I learned, a smile accompanied by the same type of patience you would give a child can go a very long way in this world.

                        "Speak softly and carry a big stick."
                        There is something to be said for verbal judo skills, to be sure. That said, there is a time and place for it, and there is another time and place for overwhelming, aggressive uses of physical force.

                        Unless you're dealing with a hostage situation, I can think of few instances where I'd recommend verbally de-escalating someone (versus using physical force) who is armed with a weapon or who is actively resisting or assaulting you. Remember, the use of physical force is always justified to stop a threat.

                        A timid, hands-off approach can often lead to a suspect gaining control of a situation when they feel that you are not willing to. There are interviews with cop killers in which they state that they felt in control of the situation because the officer was not aggressive enough with them, did not control or restrict their movements, etc.

                        Remember, your number one job is to go home at the end of your shift.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Rasta
                          This message is hidden because Rasta is on your ignore list.
                          Isn't that unfortunate? I can't read anything you are posting... This saddens me deeply.
                          "To win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the highest skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the highest skill." Sun-Tzu

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by LPGuy
                            There is something to be said for verbal judo skills, to be sure. That said, there is a time and place for it, and there is another time and place for overwhelming, aggressive uses of physical force.

                            Unless you're dealing with a hostage situation, I can think of few instances where I'd recommend verbally de-escalating someone (versus using physical force) who is armed with a weapon or who is actively resisting or assaulting you. Remember, the use of physical force is always justified to stop a threat.

                            A timid, hands-off approach can often lead to a suspect gaining control of a situation when they feel that you are not willing to. There are interviews with cop killers in which they state that they felt in control of the situation because the officer was not aggressive enough with them, did not control or restrict their movements, etc.

                            Remember, your number one job is to go home at the end of your shift.
                            I definitly agree. But it's all about instinct and your own personal observations of that moment. There have been times when I've not even opened my mouth to try to talk them down, just did it physically, and others where you know if you can just keep them talking long enough to get their family there, or long enough until a nurse can give them sedatives, it'll be a lot easier, and no one will get hurt.

                            You can read books all you want about when to attack, how to attack, and what the signs are. But I think the best reference to go off of is instinct, and also your own judgement. Always look for the non violent route, but never, ever hesitate when you know that won't work. I think what many people look for, including cop killers, is that insecurity inside of the S/O or PD officer that stands out when someone doesn't know how to handle a situation.

                            And the hands off approach should never be timid. Words can be just as commanding as weapons with many people, if you know how to handle yourself right.

                            Hehe, and "Remember, your number one job is to go home at the end of your shift" has to be the best line I've read on these forums, and the truest.

                            I need to find more of your posts. I really like your viewpoints and what you have to say so far


                            And Davis002? LMAO! Don't worry, it wasn't anything worth reading anyways. :P
                            Well...at least it's not a desk job.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by N. A. Corbier
                              The People's Republic of California is a separate country, yes.
                              that explains alot, that's it I'm moving back to the states.
                              Todd

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