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  • Can Security fill the void with fewer police and rising crime?

    Private security forces may be more needed than ever as public police departments struggle with recruitment, retirements, high costs for wages and equipment and anti-police sentiment...


    I will admit I'm jaded, but I'm just not seeing it. Until the industry as a whole decides it needs to become a real profession, nothing will change. Clients, insurance companies and government all have to push for it - and they won't, because real security officers would cost $$$. (Also, if no one wants to be a cop, why would anyone want to be a guard?)

    None of the current problems started in 2020 - they were just made worse by the riots and the pandemic. Everything done now is a day late and a dollar short.

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    Clients, insurance companies and government all have to push for it - and they won't, because real security officers would cost $$$. (Also, if no one wants to be a cop, why would anyone want to be a guard?)

    Valid view point CG I am semi retired Work most only weekends If wholly were depend on my Guard wages only, I would not have enough money to feed my cat
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    • #3
      When a field supervisor for one of America's largest guard services starts at $21.00 p/h, I see little change for the future...

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Condo Guard
        When a field supervisor for one of America's largest guard services starts at $21.00 p/h, I see little change for the future...
        Field Supervisor/Road Supervisor at one of America's largest guard services? You have no life You are on call 24/7 You could work 36 hours filling open posts from factories, to construction sites, to retail, to a guard at a apartment complex You have to be the go between person for whom you work for, and the client You might be lucky to get a patrol vehicle, but if that car is in the shop, you use your car. Your cell phone will ring as many as 20 times a day You could work as many as 80+ hours per week. You are on the bottom of the food chain at the branch office. A emergency phone call at 0700 hours on a Monday morning at some manufacturing site where the workers have walked off the job, and the plant need 12 guards on site NOW ! All this is part of being a Road Supervisor. My friend, a former Guard makes $20 stocking shelves at Target overnights, and she gets to go home at 0600 hours
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        • #5
          Even if security steps up their game they're going to run into the same problem the cops are running into. Security detain somebody and turns them over to the police and the police take them to jail and they are out on RoR bond before the security guard is even off shift.

          I'm not even sure how to say this and I really don't care who thinks I'm crazy but we're living in the last days of the Empire folks.

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          • #6
            We may be, NR. I don't understand why people can't see what's going on, except that the "boiling frog" analogy appears to be correct. In Seattle, the excuse for all the crime (according to the Police Chief, who is the the city council's b...) is the social isolation of the pandemic. (Not the fact the department is down 600 officers and has a 3 hour response time.) As far as the murder rate and the mass shootings, the solution is "...getting guns off the streets." You know how you get guns off the streets? By putting GANG MEMBERS (oh no, there's that racist term!) in prison.

            I think physical security measures will be the norm - more cameras, more plexiglass, more locks and cages on everything. Guard services will keep doing what they're doing, despite NASCO's or the IFPO's propaganda. I don't care what the companies say - they've been blowing smoke up their client's backsides for decades...

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            • #7
              It's crazy because these security companies want, demand, professional guards but pay unprofessional wages. It's sickens me that you can go to any Starbucks, hell, any McDonald's, and get the same or better pay.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by c0187
                It's crazy because these security companies want, demand, professional guards but pay unprofessional wages. It's sickens me that you can go to any Starbucks, hell, any McDonald's, and get the same or better pay.
                YES 150% agree I hope I am around when the sh*t hits the fan, and we good people take back our towns, and cities
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