Hy-Vee Adding Armed Security Guards To Its Stores

[Jim1348 Member Find all posts View Profile Close Jim1348]

It will be interesting to see how this works for Hy-Vee. Here in Minnesota, we do have some armed security, but most of them seem to be contract. At the moment, I am hard pressed to think of any in-house, private security that are armed. I think the liability has scared many/most organizations from arming any in-house folks. Instead, they go unarmed in-house or contract for armed private security.

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[Soper Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Soper]

Lots of unemployed cops to take those spots. And they can actually do something…

[The Night Rider Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close The Night Rider]

There's no way I'd do armed retail security. Someone is going to flashmob that store and some guard is going to start blasting. Then the law suits will commence

[The Night Rider Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close The Night Rider]

Lots of unemployed cops to take those spots. And they can actually do something…

What does that even mean?

[The Enforcer Member Find all posts View Profile Close The Enforcer]

What are you trying to say Soper? That armed guards can do absolutely nothing relative to sworn police officers?

True, we can't write offenders tickets nor possess qualified immunity but in most states, the law does permit us to detain for crimes commited in our presence (on post) to hand over into police custody

As well as definitely use deadly force in case of a firearm drawn or mass shootings - as well as otber possible scenarios

So it's not as if armed guards are absolutely impotent in a retail setting, if that's what you're trying to insinuate

[The Night Rider Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close The Night Rider]

What are you trying to say Soper? That armed guards can do absolutely nothing relative to sworn police officers?

True, we can't write offenders tickets nor possess qualified immunity but in most states, the law does permit us to detain for crimes commited in our presence (on post) to hand over into police custody

As well as definitely use deadly force in case of a firearm drawn or mass shootings - as well as otber possible scenarios

So it's not as if armed guards are absolutely impotent in a retail setting, if that's what you're trying to insinuate

He specifically refrenced UNEMPLOYED Police Officers. If the cop is UNEMPLOYED he wouldn't be sworn.

Even if you put an active police officer on the post he's NOT going to stop ten or more shoplifters. He can't shoot them for squeezing the Charmin.

The only REAL solution here is to find a way to control access to the store.

[The Enforcer Member Find all posts View Profile Close The Enforcer]

He specifically refrenced UNEMPLOYED Police Officers. If the cop is UNEMPLOYED he wouldn't be sworn.

Even if you put an active police officer on the post he's NOT going to stop ten or more shoplifters. He can't shoot them for squeezing the Charmin.

The only REAL solution here is to find a way to control access to the store.

In that case, if they don't hold any commission whatsoever, I guess they'd have better training with their policing background to deal with whatever circumstances could arise, compared to, say, a barely-experienced guard with a gun on his hip

But as far as what either party could LAWFULLY do in said circumstances - it's all the same

[The Night Rider Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close The Night Rider]

In that case, if they don't hold any commission whatsoever, I guess they'd have better training with their policing background to deal with whatever circumstances could arise, compared to, say, a barely-experienced guard with a gun on his hip

But as far as what either party could LAWFULLY do in said circumstances - it's all the same

The problem with using Ex-cops is their training assumes a duty to respond AND a commission. I've worked with a few Ex-cops that I had to spend the ENTIRE SHIFT reminding them that security is all about OBSERVE AND REPORT.

[Curtis Baillie Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Curtis Baillie]

I have a lot of experience hiring ex-police officers into retail security. For the most part they didn't work out and I had to let them go, with a few exceptions. They found it very difficult to make the adjustment from the black and white world to now it's a gray world. I wrote about this very topic in a couple of publications.

[copelandamuffy Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close copelandamuffy]

I have a lot of experience hiring ex-police officers into retail security. For the most part they didn't work out and I had to let them go, with a few exceptions. They found it very difficult to make the adjustment from the black and white world to now it's a gray world. I wrote about this very topic in a couple of publications.

As always Curtis you are good BTW As I write this your Philadelphia Flyers are losing to my Boston Bruins hockey team Hold on CG Boston will be in Seattle soon enough

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As always Curtis you are good BTW As I write this your Philadelphia Flyers are losing to my Boston Bruins hockey team Hold on CG Boston will be in Seattle soon enough

Cope ... moved away from Philly a few years ago. We now live in Ohio along Lake Erie. Think Cedar Point. Our very last move for sure.

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I will be watching the Eagles tomorrow.