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  • Mpls PD ID Security Guard Arrested After School Bus Driver Shot In Road-Rage Incident

    http://www.startribune.com/school-bu...way/505374902/

    The driver of a school bus with one student aboard was shot while behind the wheel in an apparent road rage incident Tuesday south of downtown Minneapolis and the suspected gunman was quickly arrested, authorities said.

    The victim was shot sometime after 2 p.m. while in a small bus on Interstate 35W near Chicago Avenue. The person was “alert and conscious” while being taken by emergency medical personnel from the scene ahead of surgery at HCMC for noncritical injuries, said police spokesman John Elder, who called the incident “mind-numbing” and said it “raises immense concern on so many levels.”

    The bus was eventually towed amid traffic already slowed by a snowstorm.

    Elder said the incident unfolded when several 911 callers reported a person outside of a vehicle pointing a gun at the school bus, and that shots were being fired.

    “Preliminary investigation is that there was a motor vehicle crash that occurred and an altercation or dispute of some sort happened resulting in gunfire,” Elder said.

    Elder said State Patrol officers arrived within a minute and arrested the suspected shooter. A gun, believed to be a semiautomatic weapon, was taken from him.

    KYNDELL HARKNESS
    Gallery: Photos: School bus driver shot on Minneapolis highway


    An image from a Minnesota Department of Transportation traffic camera showed one State Patrol trooper pointing a gun at a person standing near an open door of a black sedan that was stopped ahead of the bus, while another trooper stands behind the person. The State Patrol said on emergency dispatch audio in the moments after the shooting that the gunman appeared to be wearing a security guard’s uniform.

    Authorities identified the suspect as Kenneth W. Lilly, 31. He was booked at Hennepin County jail Tuesday night, where he’s awaiting formal charges of second-degree assault.

    Lilly, of Minneapolis, does not appear to have a criminal record in Minnesota beyond minor traffic violations. Lilly’s mother said he works as a security guard.

    The Minneapolis School District student on the bus was unharmed, said district spokesman Dirk Tedmon.

    The elementary school student was seated at the back of the bus at the time and has been reunited with family, Elder said.

    Tedmon declined to say where the student attended school. He said the student will be receiving support from the district, adding that the district website has resources to help students and families process traumatic events such as this one.

    Students who need further support should reach out to school staff members, he said.

  • #2
    There are two types of guards:

    1)those that know the job is mostly kinda a joke even if it can be serious on occasion, and have a "real job" outside security

    2)those that get way too wrapped up in it, and take themselves way too seriously, and lack "grounding" and are full of delusions, and always one moment away from an incident like this.

    BTW, has anyone heard from "Soper" lately?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Squid View Post
      There are two types of guards:

      1)those that know the job is mostly kinda a joke even if it can be serious on occasion, and have a "real job" outside security

      2)those that get way too wrapped up in it, and take themselves way too seriously, and lack "grounding" and are full of delusions, and always one moment away from an incident like this.

      Truer words have never been spoken on this board. I mean you should do your job to the best of your ability. You should show up on time, your uniform should be neat and you should make the rounds you're supposed to make and really do the checks that you're supposed to do.

      BUT you should do all that knowing in the back of your mind at all times that you are nothing but an insurance write-off with no real authority.

      Originally posted by Squid View Post
      BTW, has anyone heard from "Soper" lately?
      Minneapolis?

      Looking for a sale on Hot Pockets?

      Talking tihs about us on Officer.com?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Lunch Meat View Post


        Truer words have never been spoken on this board. I mean you should do your job to the best of your ability. You should show up on time, your uniform should be neat and you should make the rounds you're supposed to make and really do the checks that you're supposed to do.

        BUT you should do all that knowing in the back of your mind at all times that you are nothing but an insurance write-off with no real authority.
        I've always believed that as a security guard you should do the job you agreed to do as well as you reasonably can, with the resources available to you. If you can't do something as the client requests because you have not been allocated the training/equipment/authority/personnel, then that's not your fault.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Consolewatcher View Post

          I've always believed that as a security guard you should do the job you agreed to do as well as you reasonably can, with the resources available to you. If you can't do something as the client requests because you have not been allocated the training/equipment/authority/personnel, then that's not your fault.
          Good to know

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Squid View Post
            There are two types of guards:

            1)those that know the job is mostly kinda a joke even if it can be serious on occasion, and have a "real job" outside security

            2)those that get way too wrapped up in it, and take themselves way too seriously, and lack "grounding" and are full of delusions, and always one moment away from an incident like this.

            BTW, has anyone heard from "Soper" lately?
            Interesting you should state that: squid IS a joke and lone wolf and lunch meat are perfect examples of being wrapped up and taking it too seriously. I'm sure we will be reading about them soon, as the gift #2 to a T.

            Rest assured that I am always around to ensure that you three Clownshoes are kept in line and ready to throw down the BS Flag every single time you post The Stupid, which is every day now.

            You three are examples of the EPIC FAILURE that is the American school system and parenting.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Soper View Post

              Interesting you should state that: squid IS a joke and lone wolf and lunch meat are perfect examples of being wrapped up and taking it too seriously. I'm sure we will be reading about them soon, as the gift #2 to a T.

              Rest assured that I am always around to ensure that you three Clownshoes are kept in line and ready to throw down the BS Flag every single time you post The Stupid, which is every day now.

              You three are examples of the EPIC FAILURE that is the American school system and parenting.
              Saved for reporting.

              Now got heat up some Hot Pockets

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Soper View Post

                Interesting you should state that: squid IS a joke and lone wolf and lunch meat are perfect examples of being wrapped up and taking it too seriously. I'm sure we will be reading about them soon, as the gift #2 to a T.

                Rest assured that I am always around to ensure that you three Clownshoes are kept in line and ready to throw down the BS Flag every single time you post The Stupid, which is every day now.

                You three are examples of the EPIC FAILURE that is the American school system and parenting.
                Now go home and get your shine box.

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                • #9
                  https://www.hennepinattorney.org/-/m...9004B7B9D61014


                  State of Minnesota District Court County of Hennepin 4th Judicial District Prosecutor File No. 19A01589 Court File No. 27-CR-19-3281 State of Minnesota, COMPLAINT Plaintiff, Order of Detention vs. KENNETH WALTER LILLY DOB: 06/22/1987 165 WESTERN AVE NORTH #500 ST PAUL, MN 55102 Defendant. The Complainant submits this complaint to the Court and states that there is probable cause to believe Defendant committed the following offense(s): COUNT I Charge: Murder - 2nd Degree - With Intent-Not Premeditated Minnesota Statute: 609.19.1(1), with reference to: 609.11.5(a), 609.17.4(2), 609.19.1, 609.11.9 Maximum Sentence: HALF OF, 40 YEARS Offense Level: Felony Offense Date (on or about): 02/05/2019 Control #(ICR#): 19034724 Charge Description: That on or about 2/5/2019, in Hennepin County, Minnesota, KENNETH WALTER LILLY, attempted to cause the death of T.B., a human being, with intent to effect the death of that person or another, but without premeditation, while using a firearm. Minimum Sentence: 3 YEARS COUNT II Charge: Assault-2nd Degree-Dangerous Weapon Minnesota Statute: 609.222.1, with reference to: 609.222.1, 609.11.5(a), 609.101.2 Maximum Sentence: 7 YEARS AND/OR $4,200-$14,000 Offense Level: Felony Offense Date (on or about): 02/05/2019 Control #(ICR#): 19034724 Charge Description: That on or about 2/5/2019, in Hennepin County, Minnesota, KENNETH WALTER LILLY, assaulted T.B., while using a firearm. Minimum Sentence: 3 YEARS 1 STATEMENT OF PROBABLE CAUSE Complainant has investigated the facts and circumstances of this offense and believes the following establishes probable cause: On February 5, 2019, at approximately 02:14 p.m., officers received a report of a shooting occurring on Interstate 35W at Chicago Avenue, City of Minneapolis, County of Hennepin, and State of Minnesota. Officers arrived and found a school bus and black sedan parked in the lane of travel. The school bus was being driven by T.B., a known adult male, and the driver of the black sedan was identified as KENNETH WALTER LILLY, “the Defendant.” The Defendant was observed to be a uniformed security guard with a handgun secured in his holster. The Defendant was detained and an ambulance was summoned for T.B. The investigation revealed that T.B. was trying to merge onto the interstate when a collision was believed to have occurred with the Defendant’s vehicle. T.B. later told officers he was unaware of any collision, but Troopers reported observing paint transfer from the bus to the Defendant’s vehicle. The Defendant drove his vehicle to the split of I-35W and I-94 near Chicago Avenue. Traffic cameras recorded the Defendant stopping his vehicle in the lane of traffic and walking toward the school bus. A truck that had been in between the two vehicles is observed pulling away. The Defendant is shown walking to the folding passenger doors of the bus. T.B. reported to officers that the Defendant was trying to gain access and that T.B. shouted to the Defendant that he was unable to let him on the bus as he had a child on board. The Defendant is shown on video walking toward the front driver’s side corner of the bus as it appears the bus slowly tries to pull into traffic. Video documents that traffic was moving at a slow rate of speed due to the inclement weather. The Defendant proceeds to the driver’s side of the bus and is observed drawing his 9mm semiautomatic handgun from its holster. The Defendant then walks back to the front of the bus and proceeds to fire his gun into the bus windshield. The Defendant is observed walking back to the driver’s side of the bus where he then calls 911. The Defendant continues to pace back-and-forth in front of the bus until a Minnesota State Patrol Trooper arrives on scene. T.B. told officers that he had turned to look back when he started to hear shots. T.B. was found to suffer two gunshot wounds – one that grazed the side of his head and a second that entered his left arm. In total, five discharged cartridge casings were recovered from the scene. Officers learned that one eight year old child was on board the bus at the time of the incident. The child stayed with officers until a different bus arrived to bring the child home. The Defendant reported to officers that he was in fear for his safety and that is why he shot at the driver of the bus. However, video footage shows the Defendant retreating to a safe spot before walking back in front of the bus to commence shooting. Defendant is in custody. 2 SIGNATURES AND APPROVALS Complainant requests that Defendant, subject to bail or conditions of release, be: (1) arrested or that other lawful steps be taken to obtain Defendant's appearance in court; or (2) detained, if already in custody, pending further proceedings; and that said Defendant otherwise be dealt with according to law. Complainant declares under penalty of perjury that everything stated in this document is true and correct. Minn. Stat. § 358.116; Minn. R. Crim. P. 2.01, subds. 1, 2. Complainant Sara Metcalf Electronically Signed: 02/07/2019 11:18 AM Hennepin County, Minnesota Police Sergeant 350 S 5th St Minneapolis, MN 55415-1389 Badge: 4755 Being authorized to prosecute the offenses charged, I approve this complaint. Prosecuting Attorney Electronically Signed: 02/07/2019 11:12 AM Mike Radmer 300 S 6th St Minneapolis, MN 55487 (612) 348-5550

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                  • #10
                    Employer is (probably was at this point) Statewide, one of the less-esteemed locally owned agencies in the Twin Cities. Quote from the owner says he was not a problem employee: https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2019/...-bus-shooting/

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                    • #11
                      http://www.fox9.com/news/suspect-in-...eadly-shooting


                      MINNEAPOLIS (FOX 9) - The man charged with shooting a school bus driver following a crash on I-94 made his first court appearance Friday afternoon. FOX 9 is also learning this is not the first time he's been involved in a shooting incident.

                      Kenneth Lilly is charged with attempted second-degree murder and second-degree assault in the school bus shooting, but he was also involved in a deadly shooting in St. Paul three years ago.

                      The video of Tuesday's bus shooting released by the Minnesota Department of Transportation shows Lilly get out of his car and walk toward a school bus that had scraped his car while merging into traffic. Lilly tries to get on the bus and eventually fires five shots through the windshield. The shots graze the bus driver's head and hit his arm, but miss an eight-year-old student inside.

                      Lilly told police he feared for his safety, but this isn't the first time he has been involved in a highly publicized shooting where he has made that claim. photo
                      According to the Ramsey County Attorney's Office, Lilly shot and killed 16-year-old Lavauntai Broadbent, who went by the nickname "Man Man" back in July of 2015. Police say Broadbent was wearing a ski mask and gloves when he pulled a gun on Lilly on the bluffs overlooking the Mississippi River at Monument Park during an attempted robbery. Investigators say Lilly, who had a permit to carry, pulled out his own weapon and fired back, fearful he and a female witness were going to be killed.

                      Just like in the school bus shooting, police say Lilly called 911 and tried to help his would-be robber by performing CPR on him, but Broadbent was declared dead at the scene.

                      Ultimately, the Ramsey County Attorney's Office decided not to press criminal charges against Lilly saying his use of deadly force against Broadbent was legally justified.

                      In a statement Lilly's attorneys said, "Mr. Lilly was the victim of a horrible violent crime where he had to act to save his life and the life of a young lady. Members of the “Shoota Boy Gang,” on a multi-day crime spree, robbed him and a woman at gunpoint. He takes no joy in those events and has struggled with the inevitable emotional turmoil that follows being forced to act in such a way. The matter was investigated reviewed and Mr. Lilly was cleared."

                      St. Paul police say Lilly was also involved in an altercation at a bus stop in 2013, where he was approached by 10 to 15 men and one of them told the others to get him. Lilly said he feared for his safety and pulled out a three-inch knife, but one in the group took out a box cutter and a five-inch knife.
                      Lilly backed across the street and got into the car of a passerby. Three people were eventually arrested.
                      Last edited by Jim1348; 02-09-2019, 07:36 PM.

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                      • #12
                        He's going to have a tough time articulating how he felt he was in danger. Even if he felt the bus driver was driving at him as it attempted to pull back into traffic, he had enough time to get out of the way. I'm curious if the judge will order a mental evaluation; he might have some kind of PTSD. (Not being sarcastic; the guy appears to have had some bad experiences.) Thanks for the updates, Jim.

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                        • #13
                          Dang, sounds like this guy is a do-do magnet.

                          Here is go fund me for his first "job". Angel wings a nice touch. LOL. https://www.gofundme.com/9s4vuwgys

                          Attached is pic prior to being shot. Click image for larger version  Name:	kid.jpg Views:	0 Size:	5.3 KB ID:	247268
                          Last edited by Squid; 02-10-2019, 12:51 AM.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Condo Guard View Post
                            He's going to have a tough time articulating how he felt he was in danger. Even if he felt the bus driver was driving at him as it attempted to pull back into traffic, he had enough time to get out of the way. I'm curious if the judge will order a mental evaluation; he might have some kind of PTSD. (Not being sarcastic; the guy appears to have had some bad experiences.) Thanks for the updates, Jim.
                            Yeah, PTSD was the first thing that came to mind too.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Lone Wolf View Post

                              Yeah, PTSD was the first thing that came to mind too.
                              maybe it was the prospect of dealing with School District after accident.

                              not sure about schools but I hear if cops hit your car and you try to get basic settlement...good luck and plan on waiting a year or more.

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