Has There Been A Noticeable Anti-Police Vibe On Security Info Watch Forums Lately?

[Squid]

Part of it is people are always critical of the level above them. I've never heard a construction worker say good thing about an architect. When the level above you does their job well no one notices.

Security is booming because of an increase in bad people doing bad things, and most of that is Left Wing political policy, but a lot of the problem is the police, who are molded by bad policy themselves. They have all the same evils of rest of entrenched Civil Service.

This stems from two causes.

1)The Founding Fathers never intended a Civil Service where any Govt employee couldn't be instantly fired by a elected official, who in turn could be "fired" in an election. Tell anyone if private enterprise they will have a Civil Service type HR regime and they will laugh in your face.

2)When The FFs wrote the Bill or Rights they never meant it for a Police Regime that would be asked to do full scale top to bottom social engineering and rebuild of huge numbers of uncivilized foreigners. They never imagined there ever would even be "police". City of London started the world's first Police Dept in 1820, to deal with increasing numbers of foreigners doing crimes, who were a side effect of the far flung Empire. When they wrote the Bill of Rights being "shunned" was the primary punishment for bad behavior. There are reasons Southern European regimes use a "Presumed Guilty" framework.

One Week 832PC (same as week 1 of real academy) is Powers of Arrest. Its 40hrs of harping on subverting the Constitution's 4th Amend. The instructor never says "use your badge to bully citizens into giving up their 4th Amend Rights" but its clear that what it is, and if it ain't crystal clear the cadets in real academy will eagerly explain the best ways for which "subjects" etc. That will also be the main training of your rookie year. Of course, any REAL criminals are fully wise to this, so what happens is cops are trained to avoid real criminals and stretch the law, or just lie, to put minor charges on non-criminal normies. None of "he consented to the search" would be allowed in a real court. Try a Civil Case where one businessman claims another willfully and knowingly gave up important Rights for no reason and no "consideration". You would be laughed out of court and assumed to be lying about everything else. No one that isn't down with subverting the Constitution by any means necessary becomes a cop. Organized Crime can infiltrate Police but no one that respects the Constitution will make it through their Rookie year. The problem is we asking Police to deal with problems while still pretending those problems should have Constitutional Rights.

Security is a funny biz. What is bad for everyone else is good for us. A lot of what creates "good for us" is police failure, so we talk about it a lot.

[Lunch Meat]

Now, maybe I am misreading or misinterpreting this, but there seems to have been a noticeable anti-police vibe on the forums lately. Have others notice that, too? If so, why?

Or, is there just a small minority on here that are anti-police? It seems very ironic to me that anybody in security would be anti-police.

What I find ironic is the noticeable anti-security vibe from the "management" here

[Jim1348]

Now, maybe I am misreading or misinterpreting this, but there seems to have been a noticeable anti-police vibe on the forums lately. Have others notice that, too? If so, why?

Or, is there just a small minority on here that are anti-police? It seems very ironic to me that anybody in security would be anti-police.