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  • #16
    Originally posted by Condo Guard View Post
    https://thoughtcatalog.com/jim-goad/...udents-deaths/

    Here's a link to a short article that presents both views of the theory. Warning: language & graphic description of one of the cases that was changed in classification to homicide.
    a few obvious questions missing from that story (not gonna read the Private Eye's whole book).

    Where the RECENT, as in done in time frame that matches placement of body? Where they in an area with lots of other graffiti or "singular"? You might see singular "tags" but singular is odd. might be a common symbol but its not common graffiti in plain stylized form.

    Did ANY of the bodies have normal signs of college man drunk-drowning? (drunk but still able to walk, not incapacitated) I assume this would be stuff like evidence of massive exertion but little to no bruising, water intake to very active lungs, then all that well preserved by sudden "blanche" by cold water.

    As the "Ice Man" said, only people more lazy than a cop is a Coroner. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1491044...9?ref_=vp_pl_1 Dozens of times Coroner's examining his victims overlooked obvious clues out of sheer laziness. It was a minor story for a bit, but as of today NOTHING HAS CHANGED.

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      • #18
        The problem with SICK is that it defies criminological theories on both criminal street gangs and serial homicide offenders.

        Not to mention there were several inconsistencies in the article that while not invalidating it open it to questions.

        First the detective refers to SICK alternatively as a gang and as a domestic terror group. Those ARE NOT the same thing and no detective, law enforcement officer or gang expert would refer to one as the other

        Also related to the gang issue, gangs normally kill for a reason related to the operation of the gang and serial killers are generally loners and lone offenders. Even if a group of serial killers banded together in one jurisdiction for some reason what reason would they have to communicate with other cities. It serves no benefit and increases risk of detection

        Secondly, he seems to be playing both sides of the evidence. He gives the fact that the body wasn't damaged enough for being in water for that long and that it would have travelled 10 miles and under a dam as evidence of homicide (suggesting that the body entered from a different location). Yet he uses the smiley face on the bridge as evidence as well. Either the body enters from the bridge and the smiley faces are significant or it didn't and they aren't. Not both.

        IF these are homicides it is just as likely if not more likely that this is either one killer operating nationally, one killer and a few unconnected copycats or people adding the smiley faces after the fact as some type of prank or trying to keep the legend arrive

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        • #19
          Originally posted by v859 View Post
          The problem with SICK is that it defies criminological theories on both criminal street gangs and serial homicide offenders.

          Not to mention there were several inconsistencies in the article that while not invalidating it open it to questions.

          First the detective refers to SICK alternatively as a gang and as a domestic terror group. Those ARE NOT the same thing and no detective, law enforcement officer or gang expert would refer to one as the other

          Also related to the gang issue, gangs normally kill for a reason related to the operation of the gang and serial killers are generally loners and lone offenders. Even if a group of serial killers banded together in one jurisdiction for some reason what reason would they have to communicate with other cities. It serves no benefit and increases risk of detection

          Secondly, he seems to be playing both sides of the evidence. He gives the fact that the body wasn't damaged enough for being in water for that long and that it would have travelled 10 miles and under a dam as evidence of homicide (suggesting that the body entered from a different location). Yet he uses the smiley face on the bridge as evidence as well. Either the body enters from the bridge and the smiley faces are significant or it didn't and they aren't. Not both.

          IF these are homicides it is just as likely if not more likely that this is either one killer operating nationally, one killer and a few unconnected copycats or people adding the smiley faces after the fact as some type of prank or trying to keep the legend arrive
          main prob is that article is garbage (sorry Condo)

          its like when you know a LITTLE about something, then you read a "professional journalist" and you swear they must randomly hand out these assignments to Co-eds just out of college based on who grants "favors", and they had 2 days to research it but spent that time doing something else.

          but you are right about SICK not fitting any molds, MOs, or profiles.

          There have been a few TV shows about insane pointless murder groups. Pretty good one about an English professor leading one that sucked in members who felt their lives were otherwise pointless. Forgot name but it was pretty good.

          Then that "based on real events" movie "Obsession" about college kid brothers who wanted to commit the "perfect murder" just for kicks, because they felt they were so smart. Seems like most likely match.

          The "Ice Man" guy had to murder someone just as an "audition" and/or so his crime boss would have evidence to hold over him to keep him loyal/quiet. THAT is pretty SOP for OC.
          Last edited by Squid; 01-23-2019, 08:27 PM.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Soper View Post

            Based on what qualifications and legal authority..? Want to play cop? Get hired as a cop. Right now, you just exemplify the erroneous wave of jumping on the latest tv show, believing it's all truth. You must be SOME guard to have the ability to be so knowledgeable about crime that you alone can solve it. Feel free to call your local PD and tell them what yo do. Better yet, call the local FBI SAC and refer them on here, that way they can figure out that you, and squid know more than they ever will...just because you read it on the Internet.

            Way to go, "Detective"...bravo.

            Now you you understand why you are a bunch of guards.
            The same FBI that claimed the mafia didn’t exist for decades because they weren’t up for the challenge? Yeah, ok buddy.

            If this investigation is the best the pros can do, I can guarantee I couldn’t do any worse.

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