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  • Soper
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    Jazz hands because clapping is a trigger now...

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  • Condo Guard
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    The confusion is there doesn't appear to be a single clear statute (at least in our state). Take audio recording. WA is two-party consent, but if you record a conversation and you are the only one who hears the tape, at least one source says no law was broken even if you didn't tell the other person.

    Seattle's definition of "private" vs. "public" seems to hinge on some arbitrary definitions. Another example: if you are a signature gatherer for an initiative, we can't ban you, but you have to get our permission, stay in the designated area and follow our rules because we are a private business area. The mall up the street can't regulate the same activity as strictly, because a public road runs through the mall, so it is considered "public" space by the city.

    For cameras, supposedly if you are video recording patrons at your business you are required to have a sign posted stating that - yet I've been to a lot of places that have no sign but have cameras in plain sight.

    I guess I should expect nothing less of a city that regularly has people call the PD because a "microagression" or "hate speech" has been committed against them whenever they have a fender bender.

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  • Soper
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    Why wouldn’t you be able to record someone on your private property?

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  • Condo Guard
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    I've brought back this old thread because we are discussing it again at work. The big issue seems to be privacy laws. Even though Seattle Police will tell you upon contact, "You're being video and audio recorded," because they are law enforcement they don't have to turn the camera off even if you object. That may not be the case with private security. (On a side note, the legal system really needs to catch up with technology.)

    On Console's point, I'd say body cameras may be a slight deterrent, but for guards working alone or very agitated subjects, I don't think the body cam matters much to the suspect. It does seem to deter criminals who don't want to be seen, i.e. burglars and sneaky thieves. (Even then, look at doorbell cameras - I haven't seen any stats, but as far as I can tell, it hasn't caused a significant drop in package thefts.)

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  • Consolewatcher
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    I think that body cameras are good for security guards for many reasons. Not only can they protect against false allegations of improper behavior on the guard's part (criminal acts or violation of policies) but they can also act as a deterrence against assault (many people would be hesitant to assault or threaten a security guard if they knew it was all on video and could be shared with the client and/or police.

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  • Squid
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    Originally posted by Jstar571 View Post
    When I am interacting with people in that might be criminal or against company rules, must be on
    sounds fine IMO. will CYA, mostly. I've found that 98% of time, having my cell running in stealth-cam mode makes everyone behave.

    I swear it must be some sort of Body Language they are reading, all unconscious on both sides.

    Supposedly, crows feasting on corn fields will fly away when you get out of truck with LOADED shotgun, but you can go inside truck, unload under blanket, and come out and crows just keep eating. I'm guessing must be your body language.

    Needs to be tested with Bubba not knowing if gun is loaded, or cam on.

    PS- I'd wonder if Company Body Cam has Secret On mode. Cover and muffle, just to be safe. I like to have my own video, so "I" can decide if it needs to be seen. Fix a GOOD way to quickly upload to YOUR secure Cloud, check, THEN erase your phone vid if stuff gets dicey. I want the other party to go on record in a police report BEFORE I prove they are lying.

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  • ColePhelps1247
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    Our USPS facility recently got the full height turnstiles. and about 600 cameras. But we dont have to drop any of our items.

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  • copelandamuffy
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    I work at a large warehouse/distribution center

    Only access is via the security building

    Prior to entering, you leave all items in a drop box

    Cell phones, car keys, soda cans, purses, and lunch kits

    Then you go walk through this

    http://www.controlledaccess.com/full-height-turnstiles.aspx



    Camera before you walk past http://www.controlledaccess.com/full-height-turnstiles.aspx

    Two cameras after you walk past this http://www.controlledaccess.com/full-height-turnstiles.aspx I can whether some grumbling, and cussing, those who don’t comply, I remind them to look up. YOU ARE BEING WATCHED. Not me, but the cameras does tells the story

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  • ColePhelps1247
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    Originally posted by Condo Guard View Post
    Are they always running, or do you have discretion to turn on and off? I think they will be more common for security as the price comes down - everybody whips out their cell phone at the slightest excuse and starts filming us anyways...
    So why waste money on that equipment

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  • Jstar571
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    When I am interacting with people in that might be criminal or against company rules, must be on

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  • Condo Guard
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    Are they always running, or do you have discretion to turn on and off? I think they will be more common for security as the price comes down - everybody whips out their cell phone at the slightest excuse and starts filming us anyways...

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  • Jstar571
    started a topic body camera

    body camera

    Tonight was the night i dreaded. Myself and other security officers I work with were told. We are getting body cameras.

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