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  • MRA89
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    I had a terrible experience with this company. I could have sued big time for not following the USSERA act even after I tried educating them on it. The bigger the compaby gets the worse it becomes.

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  • Consolewatcher
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    Originally posted by SF_Security Officer View Post

    It sounds good in theory until you end up working at a place like Oakland where you get put on hold while calling 911. Or San Francisco where they take their time responding to calls if they are not life threatening emergencies.
    If the situation is bad enough where I need someone who is armed, I'm calling the police, who have the training, authority, backup, etc. to take care of the problem. I'm not calling a single armed security guard who has maybe a week or two's worth of training to respond.

    I'm not teying to disparage armed security guards; they provide a useful service. However, they shouls not be responding to dangerous situations.

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  • SF_Security Officer
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    Originally posted by Consolewatcher View Post

    As a security guard, if I need armed support or extra "muscle" I'm calling the police to come take care of it, not my security supervisor. Similarly if I as a guard have a medical problem and fall face first, I expect the paramedics to get there quickly. I don't expect my supervisor to get there quickly.
    It sounds good in theory until you end up working at a place like Oakland where you get put on hold while calling 911. Or San Francisco where they take their time responding to calls if they are not life threatening emergencies.

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  • Condo Guard
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    Depends on the site. The supervisor might get there before the deputy on the other side of the county. Likewise, if the call isn't ranked high but there's still a danger, an armed officer arriving tends to settle everybody down by his mere presence rather than me with just a flashlight and a note pad.

    Same on a remote industrial site if there's a medical issue - I'm calling both, and whoever gets there first can at least start or continue first aid. All of this assumes the sup or the patrol officer received more training and is properly equipped.

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  • Consolewatcher
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    Originally posted by SF_Security Officer View Post
    Here is my experience with Allied Universal: I used to be a patrol supervisor for a small locally owned security company. We made sure that we took good care of the front line guys. We had health benefits and paid vacation time. All supervisors conducted site checks regularly. Patrol supervisors were armed and responded quickly to the sites when the stationary posts needed help handling a problem. When Universal bought the company, things went downhill quickly. The clients that we had kept for years started dropping us. One of our 80 year old clients got beat up by a transient while the guard provided by Universal was nowhere to be found. One of our guards had a medical problem and fell face first, bleeding heavily from his face. It took the on duty Universal supervisor two hours to get to the site. Prior to the "acquisition" the response time for supervisors would be less than 10 minutes. They replaced our well equipped patrol vehicles (Lightbar with alley lights and takedowns, Spotlight, Air horn & PA, Radio, Fire extinguisher. etc) with some of their crappy fleet. I left the job after they decided to disarm us completely. All I can say is good luck to USSA and their Officers.
    As a security guard, if I need armed support or extra "muscle" I'm calling the police to come take care of it, not my security supervisor. Similarly if I as a guard have a medical problem and fall face first, I expect the paramedics to get there quickly. I don't expect my supervisor to get there quickly.

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  • Squid
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    Originally posted by ColePhelps1247 View Post
    From working with them, they deserve nothing but bankruptcy.
    securitas was crappy, but USSA was even worse.
    what were the issues?

    I've never worked for a big outfit in last 25yrs, partly because my former higher paying career in Construction had them asking "So if you get another construction job paying 3X what we can you will just quit?"

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  • ColePhelps1247
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    From working with them, they deserve nothing but bankruptcy.
    securitas was crappy, but USSA was even worse.

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  • SF_Security Officer
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    Originally posted by Squid View Post

    are you SF as in 'Frisco? Thats my area, too. But I'm not in Security at the moment.
    Yes SF as in San Francisco not Special Forces lol.

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  • Squid
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    Originally posted by SF_Security Officer View Post
    Here is my experience with Allied Universal: I used to be a patrol supervisor for a small locally owned
    are you SF as in 'Frisco? Thats my area, too. But I'm not in Security at the moment.

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  • SF_Security Officer
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    Here is my experience with Allied Universal: I used to be a patrol supervisor for a small locally owned security company. We made sure that we took good care of the front line guys. We had health benefits and paid vacation time. All supervisors conducted site checks regularly. Patrol supervisors were armed and responded quickly to the sites when the stationary posts needed help handling a problem. When Universal bought the company, things went downhill quickly. The clients that we had kept for years started dropping us. One of our 80 year old clients got beat up by a transient while the guard provided by Universal was nowhere to be found. One of our guards had a medical problem and fell face first, bleeding heavily from his face. It took the on duty Universal supervisor two hours to get to the site. Prior to the "acquisition" the response time for supervisors would be less than 10 minutes. They replaced our well equipped patrol vehicles (Lightbar with alley lights and takedowns, Spotlight, Air horn & PA, Radio, Fire extinguisher. etc) with some of their crappy fleet. I left the job after they decided to disarm us completely. All I can say is good luck to USSA and their Officers.

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  • Soper
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    Squid...still making unsubstantiated statements, one at a time. I'm simply amazed he actually has a job.

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  • copelandamuffy
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    All guards I've met from large firms are Warm Body Only types.
    I work for a large firm, I was not aware I have a warm body only

    Smaller firms will survive and even prosper because with a large firm you can't get anyone with half a brain, much less half a care, on the phone in less than 72hrs…I will be seeing my Doctor today. I am worried as you have written I have a half a brain. Thanks for making me aware of this Squid

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  • Condo Guard
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    I think it depends on the region. There are still a couple of smaller companies in the Seattle metro area, but they tend to be niche companies or get by on lots and lots of temporary contracts that they can fill faster than the big boys. The big companies have the budget for sales and marketing, and can low ball bids because, as you said, they're paying minimum wage for mouth breathers.

    I've worked for big and small companies - and I have to admit, I never lasted at the big ones because I was too busy looking for a better job.

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  • Squid
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    big Security firms mostly pay the lowest and will not hire anyone with any history of higher pay for entry level gig.

    I've only worked for one firm with more than 200 guards and that was just out of High School.

    All guards I've met from large firms are Warm Body Only types.

    Smaller firms will survive and even prosper because with a large firm you can't get anyone with half a brain, much less half a care, on the phone in less than 72hrs.

    Seems like 1/2 the gigs I've worked there has been a "client got pissed because when stuff popped off there was no one at the big firm to deal with anything" story.

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  • copelandamuffy
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    Condo Guard:

    20 years ago you could pick up the Boston telephone pages and flip to “Security Guards”

    1st Security on New England
    Allied Barton if my memory serves me well.. Allied and Barton were two different businesses
    Pinkerton, now Securitas
    Wackenhut..now G4S
    Guarsmark….now Allied Universal
    Apollo..biggie in Metro Boston… ….now Allied Universal
    Watts Security
    South Shore Security
    U.S. Security Associates
    Universal..now Allied Universal
    And a whole list of regional of Guard companies

    2018, and many are gone. Purchased/bought out by Securitas, and Allied Universal

    &&&
    Not so sure what will go down with this merger of U.S. Security Associates, and Allied Universal

    Probable the boots on the ground, the security guard at a trucking terminal, or mall, or gated community…is safe as his/her site supervisor. if they are U.S. Security Associates, they will probably have a new Allied Universal uniform

    I worked for Andrews International. purchased by U.S. Security Associates,
    We changed uniforms and nothing else new

    I am assuming the Field Service/road supervisor is safe…Even of the merger of U.S. Security Associates,, and Allied Universal maybe too much for one road supervisor to care for


    &&&
    It is the regional managers that need to be concerned
    Middle manger.
    Operations managers
    Branch offices? Some may close. The cost $$$ to rent office space in Boston and no doubt Seattle must be in the Ionosphere
    Layoffs at H/R
    Many moons ago a dozen Guard Companies bidding for a contract
    Now just a few

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