One of the reasons I hate college kids...

[ValleyOne]

FIrst the video;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5g7zlJx9u2E

UCLA Police Officers were alerted to a person in the library who failed to furnish his student ID card (Requirement-as it was after hours and is NOT public property). The CSO got the campus cops. The student failed to comply with their orders and was subsequently tazered. This event, of police officers trying to protect not only the university, the staff, and the little bas-Ahem students, from a viable security threat goes on to show how (IN MY OPINION) colleges and universities have become adult day care centers were everyone is force fed a daily diet of what any professor feels about the world, and then hugs are given out.

The other students UNAWARE of what's really going on start to get over emotional (you can hear a few females actually crying ) More than a few of them start to request the officers for their badge numbers and names. The crowd starts to tell the cops what they should and should not be doing.

To be honest video actually pissed me off. I am tired of people assuming that the cops are an band of evil doers who have no training or the brains to do the job. They are dealing with a breach in security. The kid turned out to be a student and for whatever reasons chose to be a d1ck about showing his ID, who knows maybe he ran short on cash for his student loans and planned this so he could sue the department, Good Plan actually, he has about 65 people who would testify that the evil cops were being big meanies to him. I mean, after all, the actions of mean cops made a few cry... poor things.

Here'sva one of the opinions of the brainiacs that have seen the video.

i would just attack the police..im actually an emotional person..at such a moment i dont think about consequenzes..i was educated to follow my conscience no matter what happens..if one individual acts, the whole pack will follow

and i don't mean to kill the police officers or something...just to get this student free and noone has to get hurt

An obvious future Rocket Scientist... Attack the police as a group, but no one has to get hurt? Follow your emotions without consideration for the consequences? I would like to know how this person envisions atacking the police without anyone getting hurt? A human wall perhaps?

These little pukes in the library just piss me off. Im sorry for the rant, but I just can't stand these kids and how they feel the world is SOOO unjust. They have NO clue what unjust truely is...

It wouldn't suprise me one damn bit to find out this was staged,

Further resources;

UCLA PD

http://www.ucpd.ucla.edu/ucpd/zippdf/2006/Taser%2011-15-06.pdf

UCLA Student Newspaper (can you note the slant?)

http://www.dailybruin.com/news/articles.asp?id=38958

[HotelSecurity]

I saw this video before. I think it was on this forum.

I too have to deal often with college aged young people who come to the hotel to take advantage of Quebec's lower than most states & provinces legal drinking age. I was reading the January issue of SECURITY magazine, page 12. North American Video is selling a "mosquito ultrasonic teenager deterrent device" I had to re-check the front cover to make sure this was not the April Fool's edition of the magazine. If it is true, apparently the device emits a sound that becomeS highly irritating to teenagers after 5 mniutes of exposure but due to natural hearing loss does not effect people over 30. I WANT SOME OF THESE BABIES!!!!!

[Mr. Security]

Kids

Yes, questioning authority is often an underlining theme found within colleges. However, the problem started at home with the parent(s) that refused to discipline and train young ones in their care. If children are raised in a home where those who are expected to set the right example chafe at authority, is it any wonder that their grown children leave home with those attitudes already inculcated?

[james2go30]

Yea

Saw this video a few weeks back...it digusted me the way the young people behaved. It was over dramatized on a lot of things and just goes to show you that todays youth has no respect for authority.

[locknid]

I wish we had a better video for this though. I do realize that the subject was not following commands and the other students were just making it worse, but I read somewhere that the officer involved has had several shady use of force issues. The guy sounded like he was nuts though(th subject getting tased) and most likely was doing it for show.

[james2go30]

Yea

I wish we had a better video for this though. I do realize that the subject was not following commands and the other students were just making it worse, but I read somewhere that the officer involved has had several shady use of force issues. The guy sounded like he was nuts though(th subject getting tased) and most likely was doing it for show.

the video was taken with a cell phone and you can't tell a whole lot from it.

[Marchetti, David, M]

Kid has a million dollar lawsuit - excessive force hands down. What are these cops wussies?, tasor em, stun em, cuff em, and drag em, it's that simple. They tasored the kid several times which was excessive no question about it. As for them telling him to get up, he does not have too it's called passive restence. That's when you drag him or carry him out to the squad car kicking and screaming if need be. After the third tasor they applied if I were present I would have walked up and dropped a cop on the spot, their actions amount to unnecessary assault with an electronic stun device. Hope they are all held liable. I don't think I would have tasored the kid I would have just tackled him and cuffed him, maybe apply a nerve pinch, restraint hold to get his cooperation.

[Marchetti, David, M]

I saw this video before. I think it was on this forum.

I too have to deal often with college aged young people who come to the hotel to take advantage of Quebec's lower than most states & provinces legal drinking age. I was reading the January issue of SECURITY magazine, page 12. North American Video is selling a "mosquito ultrasonic teenager deterrent device" I had to re-check the front cover to make sure this was not the April Fool's edition of the magazine. If it is true, apparently the device emits a sound that becomeS highly irritating to teenagers after 5 mniutes of exposure but due to natural hearing loss does not effect people over 30. I WANT SOME OF THESE BABIES!!!!!

Easy listening music has the same effect :O)

[Arff312]

Kid has a million dollar lawsuit - excessive force hands down. What are these cops wussies?, tasor em, stun em, cuff em, and drag em, it's that simple. They tasored the kid several times which was excessive no question about it. As for them telling him to get up, he does not have too it's called passive restence. That's when you drag him or carry him out to the squad car kicking and screaming if need be. After the third tasor they applied if I were present I would have walked up and dropped a cop on the spot, their actions amount to unnecessary assault with an electronic stun device. Hope they are all held liable. I don't think I would have tasored the kid I would have just tackled him and cuffed him, maybe apply a nerve pinch, restraint hold to get his cooperation.

Ok your postings are becoming a real peeve of mine real fast. I dont see how you can sit and second guess an officers decisions. An one in this field who has experience knows that we have a second to react and years to analyse. First of any one who has been trained on taser knows that you can administer followup tasings as needed. Secondly passive resistance is still resisting arrest in the state of CA. Lastly your comment about dropping a cop amounts is unprofessional to say the least. That shows why most cops dont like security. Hell i myself dislike most security because on a whole most guards are untrained, not equiped or willing to do a good job. That is why i like where i work now. we are encouraged to get more training with raises and incentives. Also as far as the tackling him almost all use of force policies go verbal, tase, physical, oc, baton, firearm.

[CorpSec]

"After the third tasor they applied if I were present I would have walked up and dropped a cop on the spot, their actions amount to unnecessary assault with an electronic stun device."

Dave, How do you suppose that would have panned out for you?

[james2go30]

Kid has a million dollar lawsuit - excessive force hands down. What are these cops wussies?, tasor em, stun em, cuff em, and drag em, it's that simple. They tasored the kid several times which was excessive no question about it. As for them telling him to get up, he does not have too it's called passive restence. That's when you drag him or carry him out to the squad car kicking and screaming if need be. After the third tasor they applied if I were present I would have walked up and dropped a cop on the spot, their actions amount to unnecessary assault with an electronic stun device. Hope they are all held liable. I don't think I would have tasored the kid I would have just tackled him and cuffed him, maybe apply a nerve pinch, restraint hold to get his cooperation.

You got a real stiffy for police officers don't ya. Every situation is different. And to me the video is way too unclear to make a decision if they were right or wrong...both sides have a story best to hear both out before just making a judgement against a LE officer cause you don't like cops.

[Mr. Security]

Kid has a million dollar lawsuit - excessive force hands down. What are these cops wussies?, tasor em, stun em, cuff em, and drag em, it's that simple. They tasored the kid several times which was excessive no question about it. As for them telling him to get up, he does not have too it's called passive restence. That's when you drag him or carry him out to the squad car kicking and screaming if need be. After the third tasor they applied if I were present I would have walked up and dropped a cop on the spot, their actions amount to unnecessary assault with an electronic stun device. Hope they are all held liable. I don't think I would have tasored the kid I would have just tackled him and cuffed him, maybe apply a nerve pinch, restraint hold to get his cooperation.

I don't believe that. You're just baiting us for a reaction. If you really believed it, 22 years of experience would surely have given you the chance to do it. Furthermore, you haven't been arrested for a felony yet and your business license was just renewed, something that wouldn't happen if you acted out the way you talk.

Maybe you just crave attention and the way to get it is to say things that tick people off. At any rate, I'm not buying it.

[james2go30]

Come to think of it.

I don't believe that. You're just baiting us for a reaction. If you really believed it, 22 years of experience would surely have given you the chance to do it. Furthermore, you haven't been arrested for a felony yet and your business license was just renewed, something that wouldn't happen if you acted out the way you talk.

Maybe you just crave attention and the way to get it is to say things that tick people off. At any rate, I'm not buying it.

I think you are right. Dude wants attention...looked over some of his older posts and it does seem that way...but I'd rather have good attention and make friends on here not enemies. Wouldn't that be more sound.

[Black Caesar]

I think you are right. Dude wants attention...looked over some of his older posts and it does seem that way...but I'd rather have good attention and make friends on here not enemies. Wouldn't that be more sound.

Yes, it would. But Prejudice (in this case, against any public police) makes people do stupid things. If it were private security instead of UCLAPD, Marchetti wouldn't have a problem with it.

[Black Caesar]

FIrst the video;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5g7zlJx9u2E

UCLA Police Officers were alerted to a person in the library who failed to furnish his student ID card (Requirement-as it was after hours and is NOT public property). The CSO got the campus cops. The student failed to comply with their orders and was subsequently tazered. This event, of police officers trying to protect not only the university, the staff, and the little bas-Ahem students, from a viable security threat goes on to show how (IN MY OPINION) colleges and universities have become adult day care centers were everyone is force fed a daily diet of what any professor feels about the world, and then hugs are given out.

The other students UNAWARE of what's really going on start to get over emotional (you can hear a few females actually crying ) More than a few of them start to request the officers for their badge numbers and names. The crowd starts to tell the cops what they should and should not be doing.

To be honest video actually pissed me off. I am tired of people assuming that the cops are an band of evil doers who have no training or the brains to do the job. They are dealing with a breach in security. The kid turned out to be a student and for whatever reasons chose to be a d1ck about showing his ID, who knows maybe he ran short on cash for his student loans and planned this so he could sue the department, Good Plan actually, he has about 65 people who would testify that the evil cops were being big meanies to him. I mean, after all, the actions of mean cops made a few cry... poor things.

Here'sva one of the opinions of the brainiacs that have seen the video.



An obvious future Rocket Scientist... Attack the police as a group, but no one has to get hurt? Follow your emotions without consideration for the consequences? I would like to know how this person envisions atacking the police without anyone getting hurt? A human wall perhaps?

These little pukes in the library just piss me off. Im sorry for the rant, but I just can't stand these kids and how they feel the world is SOOO unjust. They have NO clue what unjust truely is...

It wouldn't suprise me one damn bit to find out this was staged,

Further resources;

UCLA PD

http://www.ucpd.ucla.edu/ucpd/zippdf/2006/Taser%2011-15-06.pdf

UCLA Student Newspaper (can you note the slant?)
http://www.dailybruin.com/news/articles.asp?id=38958

I believe it was a set up as well.

The kid screams "Am I the only Martyr?" a couple of times. And now (after he dumped his 1st lawyer and decided not to pursue the racial profiling lawsuit) he's suing saying what happened to him is a violation of the Americans with Disabilities Act lol. Can't decide what kind of "discrimination" he faced lol.