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  • #31
    Originally posted by HotelSecurity
    Not often but how often do you see a Doctor retire in his early 40's? Police, at least here can retire on full pension after 20 years of service. They start at around 20, do the math! A lot of Doctors work until they are forced to retire & can no longer do other work,
    lol you completely missed my point...
    "To win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the highest skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the highest skill." Sun-Tzu

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Black Caesar
      I'm a Campus police officer. How is my job terribly differant from yours?
      Are you equally responsible for fire safety etc or just "police" I don't see MY tyoe of security focusing only on the "enforcement" duties. I am concerned with anything that can cause a loss to the hotel.
      I enforce rules and regulations, not laws.
      Security Officers. The 1st First Responders.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by davis002
        lol you completely missed my point...
        Please explain???
        I enforce rules and regulations, not laws.
        Security Officers. The 1st First Responders.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by HotelSecurity
          Please explain???
          You didn't get it the first time, so don't worry about it.
          "To win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the highest skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the highest skill." Sun-Tzu

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          • #35
            Originally posted by davis002
            You didn't get it the first time, so don't worry about it.
            Do you answer this way in court? If the lawyer simply, honestly did not understand a comment you made, this is how you answer? (I REALLY am not looking for a fight I REALLY am trying to understand).
            I enforce rules and regulations, not laws.
            Security Officers. The 1st First Responders.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by davis002
              You didn't get it the first time, so don't worry about it.
              I don't believe that Hotel Security is trying to spar with you. His question is sincere. Look, we get beat up enough without having to peck at each other. Let's give each other the benefit of the doubt and return this forum to its original purpose: To be informative and advance the interests of the security profession.
              Security: Freedom from fear; danger; safe; a feeling of well-being. (Webster's)

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              • #37
                Originally posted by HotelSecurity
                Are you equally responsible for fire safety etc or just "police" I don't see MY tyoe of security focusing only on the "enforcement" duties. I am concerned with anything that can cause a loss to the hotel.
                You're kidding, right?

                I'm a campus cop for a "small" (5,000 students per year) Community College (which is 1 of 7 Colleges in the County College District, the Largest handles about 17,000 students per year, the smallest has 3200)..

                At Bigger Colleges and Universities, their public safety departments will have split police and security divisions (that's how it was when I was working for the Baylor University Medical Center as a Public Service Officer, us PSOs handled the security stuff, the Medical Center Police handled the LE aspect).

                But when it's a small college like mine, it's just us. Our entire staff (less than 20 of us) is police, except the 2 department assistants. That means one minute I'm writting a speeding ticket on an adjacent street, the next I'm unlocking a door for the dance troupe. Hell, 90+% of my job is security, public relations, and physical/facility safety issues.

                What, do you you think because we're police we spend all our time chasing drug addicts down hallways lol? Hell, if we ran everyone we come in contact with for warrants, half our instructors would probably not show up for work the next day (I'm exaggerating, I think).

                So I ask again, how is my job sooo very differant from yours?
                Last edited by Black Caesar; 02-06-2007, 07:28 PM.
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                Corbier's Commandos

                " "The trouble with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." ~Margaret Thatcher

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                • #38
                  I just lack the patience to play this "No Police Allowed" game. Do some of you honestly feel that our LEO counterparts can't offer valuble insight to this forum? Yes, our jobs are different... we have established that. But to argue that they shouldn't be here, is just childish. Police and Security can learn alot from each other. We need to communicate with eachother, and if you don't agree then i'm at a loss of words. I am fortunate to work in an area where the Police and Security are doing just that... working together as a team.
                  "To win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the highest skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the highest skill." Sun-Tzu

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Black Caesar
                    ....
                    So I ask again, how is my job sooo very differant from yours?
                    Actually, there are more similarities with your job than with other police work. Campus police often handle security functions and probably are the closest to actual security operations.

                    However, most police officers are not involved in setting/monitoring fire panels, handling other facility functions such as access control, plumbing/HVAC problems and the like. That doesn’t mean that we can't learn from each other.
                    Last edited by Mr. Security; 02-06-2007, 08:14 PM.
                    Security: Freedom from fear; danger; safe; a feeling of well-being. (Webster's)

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Black Caesar
                      You're kidding, right?

                      I'm a campus cop for a "small" (5,000 students per year) Community College (which is 1 of 7 Colleges in the County College District, the Largest handles about 17,000 students per year, the smallest has 3200)..

                      At Bigger Colleges and Universities, their public safety departments will have split police and security divisions (that's how it was when I was working for the Baylor University Medical Center as a Public Service Officer, us PSOs handled the security stuff, the Medical Center Police handled the LE aspect).

                      But when it's a small college like mine, it's just us. Our entire staff (less than 20 of us) is police, except the 2 department assistants. That means one minute I'm writting a speeding ticket on an adjacent street, the next I'm unlocking a door for the dance troupe. Hell, 90+% of my job is security, public relations, and physical/facility safety issues.

                      What, do you you think because we're police we spend all our time chasing drug addicts down hallways lol? Hell, if we ran everyone we come in contact with for warrants, half our instructors would probably not show up for work the next day (I'm exaggerating, I think).

                      So I ask again, how is my job sooo very differant from yours?
                      I'm at work & have recently moved so I don't know where it is but I had a book written by the Director of Security for one of the major US universities. He meantioned that back in the 70's there was the trend by Canpus Security to rename themselves as Campus Police or Campus Public Security much as the Montreal Métro security calls itself Surveillance. His arguement was that they were still Security Departments, they were just trying to get rid of the bad image a lot of Watchmen type Security that existed. His quote: 'A rose by any other name still smells as sweet'. The may call themselves Police but most of their duties are still closer to Security than public police. (In Canada it's clearer there are Police Officers & Special Constables - Universities have Special Constables).

                      By the way I wrote originally that I did not check Officer.com. I do read police related things so that I can keep up with new things happening. That being said I also read fire department magazines & emergency medical technician magazines as well as publications put out by the CSST (Quebec's OSHA).
                      Last edited by HotelSecurity; 02-06-2007, 07:49 PM.
                      I enforce rules and regulations, not laws.
                      Security Officers. The 1st First Responders.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Mr. Security
                        Actually, there are more similarities with your job than with other police work. Campus police often handle security functions and probably are the closest to actual security operations.

                        However, most police officers are not involved in setting/monitoring fire panels, handling other facility functions such as access control, plumbing/HVAC problems and the like. That doesn’t mean that we can't learn form each other.
                        The difference between my now security job to my past police job is just what you mentioned. Monitoring cameras, fire suppression, testing alarm systems, and checking fire extinguishers.
                        Past experience does come in handy with theft investigations, drug use and domestic situations.
                        Last edited by T202; 02-06-2007, 08:01 PM.

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                        • #42
                          OK, let us step back or sit back for a second, take a deep breath.
                          Police are armed social workers. Public function.
                          Security are either armed or unarmed social workers. Private function.
                          It is acknowledged, since 9/11 things have become murky.
                          We all work for the common good, the specialties may have similar training and functions, the scope of jurisdiction and authority differ.
                          Enjoy the day,
                          Bill

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by ValleyOne
                            SIMPLE SOLUTION: Don't wanna read a post from a cop then don't read it. I TRY very hard to do the same with stuf Marchetti.
                            Use your "ignore" function. I do.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by wilrobnson
                              Use your "ignore" function. I do.
                              Huh? Could you ellucidate?
                              ~Super Ninja Sniper~
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                              Nemo me impune lacessit

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by ValleyOne
                                Huh? Could you ellucidate?
                                Click the person that you want to ignore's name in the post, next to their avatar.

                                Select "View Public Profile"

                                On the profile page, select "Add this User to your Ignore List."

                                You will no longer see their posts, just "You have chosen to ignore this poster's posts."

                                You will see their quotes in other people's posts, though.
                                Some Kind of Commando Leader

                                "Every time I see another crazy Florida post, I'm glad I don't work there." ~ Minneapolis Security on Florida Security Law

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