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  • Black Caesar
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2006
    • 1332

    #16
    Originally posted by N. A. Corbier
    Why not? Florida requires an armed security guard to trunk the weapon or have a citizen CCW when going to or from work. Can only strap it on openly on post.
    *insert standard "I'm not trying to down Florida" disclaimer here*

    (lol)

    In Texas a S/O can carry openly to and from work.

    Even at my college (a gun free zone for all except LEOs), we have to follow that rule. We have a bus stop on campus, it's a public bus stop, next to ur main entrance.

    This one guy comes on campus 3 or 4 times a week in his security uniform, armed, and waits at the bus stop. Since he is going to work, nothing we (campus police) can say to him , though i did take him aside and remind him to not step foot in the building while he is armed (I don't particualrily care, but laws are laws). Once he had a shoot gun, unloaded with the action open. Sometimes I see him get off the bus in uniform. He walks stright across the street to his house, no biggy.

    Florida don't seem to like private security much....
    ~Black Caesar~
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    • ocp
      Member
      • Nov 2006
      • 45

      #17
      This one of those issues that the depending on the Police Officers mood at the time of you being questioned about your firearm you have on in uniform. Most Officers see the uniform and go about their business, but in the past I have been asked by P.D. to see my F.A.B. card. This is fine and I don't mind being asked by officials. I have spent to much money and time on being certified to carry this firearm, so I don't mind showing off my certs.

      I do think that Security Officers should be required to have the same type of training or same amount of hours in firearm training that the Police do. The 20 hour classes that we have to go through first and then the 10 hour class every year after that is a joke. They leave it up to you for practice and further training. I also think that if you fail a firearms class you should not be aloud to try again for at least a year. I have seen a couple of guys fail the class because they could follow directions, couldnt shoot, or they were trying to pass with a type weapon that I would have thrown away if given to me. I wont say name brands but one of these junkers fell apart when he was doing the 3 foot quick draw, the weapon could be bought new for around $130. I think you know the type I'm talking about.
      SGT. WARD

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      • N. A. Corbier
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2005
        • 7369

        #18
        Originally posted by Black Caesar
        *insert standard "I'm not trying to down Florida" disclaimer here*

        (lol)

        In Texas a S/O can carry openly to and from work.

        Even at my college (a gun free zone for all except LEOs), we have to follow that rule. We have a bus stop on campus, it's a public bus stop, next to ur main entrance.

        This one guy comes on campus 3 or 4 times a week in his security uniform, armed, and waits at the bus stop. Since he is going to work, nothing we (campus police) can say to him , though i did take him aside and remind him to not step foot in the building while he is armed (I don't particualrily care, but laws are laws). Once he had a shoot gun, unloaded with the action open. Sometimes I see him get off the bus in uniform. He walks stright across the street to his house, no biggy.

        Florida don't seem to like private security much....
        No, they don't. They don't like the idea of people openly carrying guns, especially since the license authorizes them to carry anywhere in the state.

        Basically, an on-duty security officer could walk around a public university and the police could not stop them, as the license gives them the power to carry anywhere.

        Florida has very restrictive security laws because they seemed to have originated the concept.
        Some Kind of Commando Leader

        "Every time I see another crazy Florida post, I'm glad I don't work there." ~ Minneapolis Security on Florida Security Law

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        • kingsman
          Member
          • May 2006
          • 329

          #19
          As Ia am trying to get hired into a new security company, they needed me to qualify with their handgun.

          S&W .38 Spec.

          Not my best showing. Every other time I have had to qualify with a handgun it has been a semiauto. Every time I have qualified as expert. Not this time.

          It didn't help that I did not get a good nights sleep the night before, or that I have never handled the S&W, or that the Cylinder release is push rather than pull like my Ruger, ....damned excuses.

          I did qualify, though just barely. I was more nervous than usual for some reason as well.

          Now we have to take a written test on Thursday, and a physical and drug test. Then I should be all set.

          Oh! While I live and work in Michigan, these are federal requirements, not michigan requirements. The position I am trying for is a federal security position.

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          • T202
            Member
            • Apr 2006
            • 255

            #20
            Originally posted by kingsman
            As Ia am trying to get hired into a new security company, they needed me to qualify with their handgun.

            S&W .38 Spec.

            Not my best showing. Every other time I have had to qualify with a handgun it has been a semiauto. Every time I have qualified as expert. Not this time.

            It didn't help that I did not get a good nights sleep the night before, or that I have never handled the S&W, or that the Cylinder release is push rather than pull like my Ruger, ....damned excuses.

            I did qualify, though just barely. I was more nervous than usual for some reason as well.

            Now we have to take a written test on Thursday, and a physical and drug test. Then I should be all set.

            Oh! While I live and work in Michigan, these are federal requirements, not michigan requirements. The position I am trying for is a federal security position.
            When I first qualified with a S&W revolver we had a timed shoot where you had to shoot two, dump them, load two, shoot four, dump them, load four, then shoot six dump them and reload. Talk about frustrating. I was very glad to see speed loaders come along.
            (Good luck with the federal job)

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            • Chucky
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 1462

              #21
              Kingsman before I went in the Army I was an extremely good shot to the point that it creep-ed some of my friends out. A lot of off the hip shots were on target. I seldom if ever used the sites and wasted very little time aiming. Basically aim and shoot looking over the top of the barrel.

              Then the Army decided that their way was the only way and I sucked big time. They wanted us to locate our thumb about an inch below our eye socket with the right hand. Then the wanted us to line up the target through the sites. Then breath in such a way that our hands were very still. I guess if you were from a big city and never held a gun before then that was good.

              When I went to Nam I and others totally disregarded that training and lived to tell about it.
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              THE AVERAGE RESPONSE TIME FOR A .357 MAGNUM ROUND IS 1400 FEET PER SECOND?
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              • ctbgpo
                Member
                • Jun 2006
                • 139

                #22
                Ct, requires less than 25 hours of training for a blue card.
                They just changed the law so that NOW you shoot what you carry
                and have to requalify once a year.

                I worked at an indoor pistol range (IM kind of a gun nut)

                We saw all of the fly by night instructors, Who by the way are required by DPS to have a Police Officer rating (current of former LE)
                we had one guy who wanted to rent a Glock off of our wall to qualify his class. (ILLEGAL)

                In Ct you can carry the weapon in uniform openly, I think because your blue card (security officers firearms permit) is an addendum to you pistol permit.

                I have taken some really good classes from these guys, they use our range and have some great tactics and retention classes. Just figured I'd give them a plug cuz they cut me a break and I'd recommend them to any current/future SOs in Ct
                PISTOLPERMITCT.com
                Just my .02 worth
                Last edited by ctbgpo; 01-28-2007, 03:03 PM.

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