Commentary

[security steve]

What do you do when you nail a larceny and trespass suspect and he's in the custody of a new born infant?

Heh, you crack me up.

Proofread your postings, write in logical order, use an internet browser with spell check (Firefox or the new IE) and make sure your posts don't cause me to say "heh" unless you are telling a joke. How would he be in the custody of a newborn infant? That makes no sense. How about he has custody of a new born infant? How about there is a new born infant with him?

I digress.

Onto security criminals, read on.

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4196/is_20060512/ai_n16370967

As a Walgreens security guard for six years, Sam Gwin Jr. wore a gun and a bulletproof vest to work every day.

As a convicted felon, Gwin wasn't supposed to have either of those things.

http://starbulletin.com/2002/03/13/news/story3.html

According to the employment card, Royal Guard hired Hirakawa on Feb. 10, 2001, one week before he was released from prison.

And a final one from Security Management Magazine (the article is a little dated). Scroll to the bottom to read "Security Officer Regulation: A Statutory Analysis"

http://www.securitymanagement.com/library/000453.html

Of the twenty-four states that check criminal history, all but one disqualify applicants who have ever been convicted of a felony. Most states that disqualify felons do so for all felons. Five states, however, disqualify felons only if the offense occurred recently, and four states prohibit security employers from "knowingly" hiring a felon.

I could go on and on, but everyone else has already made Dave look like the buffoon he is.

[mike booth]

Sec Trainer. I stand corrected.

[CorpSec]

"I reported the suspect vehicles license plate, and proceeded to make an approach, when I saw the driver reach behind his back and take something out. I had no doubt the suspect pulled a firearm. Walking towards the vehicle I followed procedure and placed the door jam of the vehicle between myself and the suspect driver so I was not in a clean line of sight."

Hmmm, you were sure the guy pulled a gun and still approached the car? That is incredibly poor tactics at it's best and blatant foolishness at it's worst.

I had a nice laugh when I read your article. Why not just put your points down and send them in to the lawmakers? I don't understand why you embedded your thoughts in an article that amounts to nothing more than a conversation with yourself.

[outofplacevikingfan]

Six officers have died this year, it's only 16 days in the new year. You can find this information on Officer.down. But according to Dave were all _______ not like the good old boys back in his time.

You talk big about your experiences but it is not that impressive honestly. You always bring up that in 22yrs you've had 18 arrests, is that something to be proud of? What does that average a year? Oh yeah I'm sure you really took that police department to the cleaners in your federal suit. How is that mail inspecting law you want past going for you, I'm sure it's on the presidents desk right now. Just like I'm sure that letter that you wrote and interviewed yourself for is going to be taken real serious when it gets there.

It's my first post so some of you may call me bad names but this is the reason the sometimes have bad attitudes of security.

[N. A. Corbier]

Six officers have died this year, it's only 16 days in the new year. You can find this information on Officer.down. But according to Dave were all _______ not like the good old boys back in his time.

You talk big about your experiences but it is not that impressive honestly. You always bring up that in 22yrs you've had 18 arrests, is that something to be proud of? What does that average a year? Oh yeah I'm sure you really took that police department to the cleaners in your federal suit. How is that mail inspecting law you want past going for you, I'm sure it's on the presidents desk right now. Just like I'm sure that letter that you wrote and interviewed yourself for is going to be taken real serious when it gets there.

It's my first post so some of you may call me bad names but this is the reason the sometimes have bad attitudes of security.

Do I know you?

[outofplacevikingfan]

no, great minds must think alike though.

[N. A. Corbier]

no, great minds must think alike though.

heh... Wasn't sure if you saw this topic on that other forum or not.

[CorpSec]

"If it saves one security officer from being mistaken and not shot behind a building at 3:00 a.m. then it's worth it in my opinion".

Not walking up on a car after you have no doubt that the driver has pulled a firearm after you high brighted him in your Neon would also go a long way in ensuring that nobody gets shot!

[Marchetti, David, M]

Private policing is, and always has been, at least as critical to the life of this nation as the public police, and probably more so. You have a very great deal to learn and this board was the last place I ever thought I would see a post like this.

SecTrainer well said, you Sir are a better writer then myself laughing, I guess in my 22 years of being in this industry I have done nothing in my life amounting to anything just being a lowly pathetic security officer. I know I am a big fat " 0 ", a loser, a wanna be dork, blah blah blah. I look at the source where the criticism comes from and ignore it for the most part as it comes from current or former police officers and the lackeys that follow them blindly. It's a good thing not everyone thinks like them as the name Hitler comes to mind. I have paid my dues and then some so I honestly don't care what they think.

22 year veteran of the security industry in the State of Connecticut having held positions as a Security Officer, Investigator, Retail Detective, Lead Detective, Special Operative, Shift and Site Supervisor, and for the last 14 years he has owned and operated his own licensed security agency.

Professional highlights include serving on a security detail that assisted in protecting then President of the United States Ronald Reagan when he visited the area, holding high level government security clearances issued through the D.O.D. Department of Defense, D.O.E. Department of Energy, DISCO , has been assigned to the C.E.O. of Sears, The Harlem Globetrotters, and currently heads up security for a prominent businesman overseeing physical assets in excess of 300 million dollars.

Experience consists of Corporate, Industrial, and Manufacturing Facilities, Municipal Services, Elderly Housing, Education, Scientific, and Experimental Facilities, Private Residential Communities, Retail Operations, Mining, and other areas.

To date approximately 28+ criminal arrests, one armed felony arrest while unarmed, reported 4 fires of non-client property, recovered 4 stolen vehicles, and prevented a forced attempted child abduction and saved several lives by direct intervention during criminal incidents.

Brought federal civil litigation against a municipal police department who have engaged in illegal activity and conduct directed towards himself and employees to enforce civil rights.

An open advocate for state and federal civil rights and the proper supervision of law enforcement authorities, State District Attorneys, and Judges in the State of Connecticut.

While on duty he has been assaulted, struck by a tractor trailer, threatened with deadly force, spit on, stalked, and had his vehicles vandalized.

Ohhhhhhh Godddddddd I'mmmmm Suchhhhh A Looserrrrrrrr Please God kill me now as it's better
then being a Security Officer - NOT.

[Marchetti, David, M]

"If it saves one security officer from being mistaken and not shot behind a building at 3:00 a.m. then it's worth it in my opinion".

Not walking up on a car after you have no doubt that the driver has pulled a firearm after you high brighted him in your Neon would also go a long way in ensuring that nobody gets shot!

Ummmm a two words - chicken ****. Your job doing security is to investigate why someone is behind your clients building at 3:00 a.m. unless your chicken **** or a do nothing guard.

[davis002]

I find it absolutely mind boggling how unprofessional you portray yourself. I would expect far more from an OWNER with 22 years of experience. You have this "how dare you question me" attitude whenever someone questions your views. All I can say is, if you can't take the heat, stop posting your dribble. All you are doing is ruining whatever credibility you may have. I already know, and expect, that you will snap on me for daring to post this. I am only trying to remind you to think of the big picture. Any prospective client that does a little research and comes across your posts on this board will RUN AWAY! Think of yourself, your company, and most importantly your employees. As an owner, you are the one they should be able to look up to. If the way you conduct yourself on this forum is in anyway relative to the way you conduct yourself around them, I am afraid that you are only ruining your image that you have worked so hard for in the past 22 years.

[outofplacevikingfan]

Oh wow you made 10 arrests in the past few days, good for you every other post, when you credit your self so highly because you've made 18+ arrests in 22yrs. Man I change my opinion of you with those 10 new arrests, I bow down to you now. You are right, guys leave him alone he has been assaulted, threatened with deadly force and spit on. Once again your qualifications don't mean sh-t to half of us. If your a cop in a town of 2,000 assaulted, threatened with deadly force happens all the time. You wouldn't last 10 seconds in our world so shut your mouth.

You talk down to law enforcement in every post saying we are arrogant and think we are gods. Do you not see bye every post you write you are doing what your complaing about.

I having nothing against security officers, when I was in college I worked as a security officer for a year and a half. It wasn't that rough, and never once did I have a bad dealing with police. We called them all the time at one account, and more than half the time they would stop out when things were slow and bull sh-t.

You brag so much, because you've put your life on the line so many times. Write us when you've been shot at, or have wrestled with someone on the ground that is trying to get at your gun, or been on the side of a highway at 3am with no back up for miles and had a car pulled over, and that feeling happens for some reason in you when all seems fine but something is going to go down.

As I say again I'm sorry if I sound like an a--wh--- but when you've been to as many funerals for people that he is saying are pieces of sh-- your going to be hot.

[HotelSecurity]

Oh wow you made 10 arrests in the past few days, good for you every other post, when you credit your self so highly because you've made 18+ arrests in 22yrs. Man I change my opinion of you with those 10 new arrests, I bow down to you now. You are right, guys leave him alone he has been assaulted, threatened with deadly force and spit on. Once again your qualifications don't mean sh-t to half of us. If your a cop in a town of 2,000 assaulted, threatened with deadly force happens all the time. You wouldn't last 10 seconds in our world so shut your mouth.

You talk down to law enforcement in every post saying we are arrogant and think we are gods. Do you not see bye every post you write you are doing what your complaing about.

I having nothing against security officers, when I was in college I worked as a security officer for a year and a half. It wasn't that rough, and never once did I have a bad dealing with police. We called them all the time at one account, and more than half the time they would stop out when things were slow and bull sh-t.

You brag so much, because you've put your life on the line so many times. Write us when you've been shot at, or have wrestled with someone on the ground that is trying to get at your gun, or been on the side of a highway at 3am with no back up for miles and had a car pulled over, and that feeling happens for some reason in you when all seems fine but something is going to go down.

As I say again I'm sorry if I sound like an a--wh--- but when you've been to as many funerals for people that he is saying are pieces of sh-- your going to be hot.

David has been talking down about Police Officers. You are talking down to Security Officers. In my type of security I am a First Responder for the Police (and Fire & Paramedics). I deal with the same situations you do plue I work alone & am not allowed to be armed. The medical field has First Responders, there is a place for them BESIDE the Paramedics. There is also a place for Security Officers, beside Police Officers.

[Mr. Security]

Oh wow you made 10 arrests in the past few days, good for you every other post, when you credit your self so highly because you've made 18+ arrests in 22yrs. Man I change my opinion of you with those 10 new arrests, I bow down to you now. You are right, guys leave him alone he has been assaulted, threatened with deadly force and spit on. Once again your qualifications don't mean sh-t to half of us. If your a cop in a town of 2,000 assaulted, threatened with deadly force happens all the time. You wouldn't last 10 seconds in our world so shut your mouth.

You talk down to law enforcement in every post saying we are arrogant and think we are gods. Do you not see bye every post you write you are doing what your complaing about.

I having nothing against security officers, when I was in college I worked as a security officer for a year and a half. It wasn't that rough, and never once did I have a bad dealing with police. We called them all the time at one account, and more than half the time they would stop out when things were slow and bull sh-t.

You brag so much, because you've put your life on the line so many times. Write us when you've been shot at, or have wrestled with someone on the ground that is trying to get at your gun, or been on the side of a highway at 3am with no back up for miles and had a car pulled over, and that feeling happens for some reason in you when all seems fine but something is going to go down.

As I say again I'm sorry if I sound like an a--wh--- but when you've been to as many funerals for people that he is saying are pieces of sh-- your going to be hot.

If you are unable to express your viewpoint without using profanity, then go back to O.com where that type of dialog is common. That type of language isn't permitted over your police radio and isn't going to be permitted here.

[outofplacevikingfan]

1. Mr. security your right, and I'm sorry for my language I can appreciate your point.

2. Not directided at you Mr. security, but the comment I'm talking down to security is no I'm not I'm talking down to him. I'm not saying anything wrong with security on a whole, as I said I did my time there.