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  • HotelSecurity
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    Originally posted by kingsman
    When I worked front desk at the hotel here, I took tips when they were offered, even though I wanted to say no. The reason? Because the bell boys and other staff often recieved tips, and to refuse tips would send a message that they didn't need to be tipped.
    I tell the guest, 'no thanks security shouldn't be tipped, but if you want,please tip the Bellboys & Doormen;.

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  • Special Investigator
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    I very often get free cups of coffee, soda or food because the business wants me to stop in. My presence at these businesses often scares off the panhandlers, drug dealers, gangbangers and those who loiter and normaly bother their paying customers. I hang around for awhile and make my presance known and then slip away usally unnoticed. I see nothing wrong with accepting small 'gifts'.

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  • Lawson
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    Originally posted by kingsman
    When I worked front desk at the hotel here, I took tips when they were offered, even though I wanted to say no. The reason? Because the bell boys and other staff often recieved tips, and to refuse tips would send a message that they didn't need to be tipped.
    If you didnt want the tip, did you consider giving it to the bellboys or staff members who tended to that guest?

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  • kingsman
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    When I worked front desk at the hotel here, I took tips when they were offered, even though I wanted to say no. The reason? Because the bell boys and other staff often recieved tips, and to refuse tips would send a message that they didn't need to be tipped.

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  • cp73
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    I've worked for companies on both sides of the coin. Accepting gifts or gratuities is ok. Accepting gifts or gratuities is strictly forbidden.

    Regardless of company policy, I won't take it. Not even a cup of coffee. Why? Because some people think, even must waaaay back there in their mind, that by accepting their gift, you are obligated to them. Taking that cup of coffee from the corner store clerk results in "Hey, it's been getting pretty busy on Friday nights. Could you stop in a few times to check on things?" Or taking the plate of cookies from the little old lady at the apartment complex results in her calling you every night, several times a night, for everything from strange noises to helping open the pickle jar. And people with money...Oh, Lord, save us from the stuck up rich people, who already think they own the poor security guard at the front gate. Take a tip from one, and next thing you know, it's "You owe me! I gave you a dollar yesterday!"

    I'll pass on that, thanks. I simply say"I appreciate the offer, but I can't" and walking away. They don't need to know why, and if they want to get offended, well.....good. That's one less obnoxious person calling me at all hours to help them find their runaway chihuaha.

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  • wjohnc
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    A couple of years ago I composed the rules, both general and site-specific, for guards of the company. Everything was fine and good until I got to the issue of accepting gifts.
    Management, and the Mall Supervisors, had a hard time agreeing with it, citing the guards at the malls where freebies at mall closing time like Tim Horton's coffee and doughnuts were always a favourite.

    I included the ban, and it was approved, but we all knew it wouldn't be strongly enforced. The reason we included it was for protection of the company if something happened to a guard.

    I'm not there anymore.


    wjohnc
    who after many years of declining gifts and freebies on- or off-duty (a small city everyone knew me somehow) has it ingrained in his behaviour - it sucks at parties.

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  • GCMC Security
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    Originally posted by N. A. Corbier
    Was this in Florida? There are a lot of rules in 493 and 5-N, but I don't think there's anything against tipping in statute unless they're trying to make a fraud or an unwritten "unprofessional activities" claim.
    Just an excuse we used. It was against company policy. Some people would try and force the money into your hand, tell em it's against the law and they stop real quick.

    edit: IF it would have been up to me, I would have let them take it. The officers working valet were my lowest paid officers in the town. 7 bucks I believe. Some may think that aint that bad for just parking vehicles, but they were still required to be "D" officers and when they realized they can go down the street to joe blow security and make 8.50 they was gone.

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  • N. A. Corbier
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    Its amusing because you can't actually bribe a security person unless they have specific authority vested in them by the state, and are considered "public employees."

    While it may be against company policy to take tips, you can't usually bribe a security person legally.

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  • Andy Taylor
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    Originally posted by N. A. Corbier
    Was this in Florida? There are a lot of rules in 493 and 5-N, but I don't think there's anything against tipping in statute unless they're trying to make a fraud or an unwritten "unprofessional activities" claim.
    Although I am not familiar with FL law, I believe that he simply told this to people because sometimes people get upset when you try to refuse a tip.
    That is why we are allowed to accept tips. We don't want to upset customers. We are not allowed to ask for one in any way, shape or form. In training new hires I go through about 15 minutes of explaining the difference between a "tip" and a "bribe"

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  • N. A. Corbier
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    Originally posted by GCMC Security
    We are not allowed to accept tips, people bring food to the hospital all the time thats ok. At my last hospital we did the valet parking and when some one tried to tip us we told them that because we were licensed by the state we could not accept them for fear of losing our license.
    Was this in Florida? There are a lot of rules in 493 and 5-N, but I don't think there's anything against tipping in statute unless they're trying to make a fraud or an unwritten "unprofessional activities" claim.

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  • HotelSecurity
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    Originally posted by BHR Lawson
    The hospital I go to for care has their contract security officers provide valet service. They have a big sign out front that says "Valet parking for Physician's Pavilion and Medical Center patients. NO TIPPING"

    It always kinda makes me chuckle when I see that, then again I always park myself.
    The shuttles at my 2 airport hotels have signs in them in both offical languages says "Tipping is at your descresion". During negociations at the downtown hotel the valet parking jockies wore big buttons that said "Tipping IS Accepted".

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  • Lawson
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    The no tipping thing always reminds me of watching episodes of "Futurama" where the pizza box Fry delivers always says "Do not tip delivery boy"

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  • GCMC Security
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    We are not allowed to accept tips, people bring food to the hospital all the time thats ok. At my last hospital we did the valet parking and when some one tried to tip us we told them that because we were licensed by the state we could not accept them for fear of losing our license.

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  • Lawson
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    Originally posted by Mr. Security
    Let me guess: Fruitcake (lots of nuts)
    Fruitcake, Pound cake, carrot cake, ice cream cake, whatever... if its from a patient, Im not eating it.

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  • Lawson
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    The hospital I go to for care has their contract security officers provide valet service. They have a big sign out front that says "Valet parking for Physician's Pavilion and Medical Center patients. NO TIPPING"

    It always kinda makes me chuckle when I see that, then again I always park myself.

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