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  • #16
    When I worked front desk at the hotel here, I took tips when they were offered, even though I wanted to say no. The reason? Because the bell boys and other staff often recieved tips, and to refuse tips would send a message that they didn't need to be tipped.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by kingsman
      When I worked front desk at the hotel here, I took tips when they were offered, even though I wanted to say no. The reason? Because the bell boys and other staff often recieved tips, and to refuse tips would send a message that they didn't need to be tipped.
      If you didnt want the tip, did you consider giving it to the bellboys or staff members who tended to that guest?
      "Alright guys listen up, ya'll have probably heard this before, Jackson vs. Securiplex corporation; I am a private security officer, I have no State or governmental authority. I stand as an ordinary citizen. I have no right to; detain, interrogate or otherwise interfere with your personal property-... basically all that means is I'm a cop."-Officer Ernie
      "The Curve" 1998

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      • #18
        I very often get free cups of coffee, soda or food because the business wants me to stop in. My presence at these businesses often scares off the panhandlers, drug dealers, gangbangers and those who loiter and normaly bother their paying customers. I hang around for awhile and make my presance known and then slip away usally unnoticed. I see nothing wrong with accepting small 'gifts'.
        "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."

        ~~George Orwell.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by kingsman
          When I worked front desk at the hotel here, I took tips when they were offered, even though I wanted to say no. The reason? Because the bell boys and other staff often recieved tips, and to refuse tips would send a message that they didn't need to be tipped.
          I tell the guest, 'no thanks security shouldn't be tipped, but if you want,please tip the Bellboys & Doormen;.
          I enforce rules and regulations, not laws.
          Security Officers. The 1st First Responders.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Special Investigator
            I very often get free cups of coffee, soda or food because the business wants me to stop in. My presence at these businesses often scares off the panhandlers, drug dealers, gangbangers and those who loiter and normaly bother their paying customers. I hang around for awhile and make my presance known and then slip away usally unnoticed. I see nothing wrong with accepting small 'gifts'.
            There was a company in Florida that had a Circle K go after them for failing to provide services. They alleged that the company was compensated in product (free food and coffee) for providing security services several times a night.

            Normally, this would be a no brainer, but the security company's agents took on the role of service provider, by removing people or "patrolling" on site, in the name of the Circle K. This created all that was needed to hit them with "failure to provide services," the only saving grace was that in Florida, any contract over $500 dollars must be written.
            Some Kind of Commando Leader

            "Every time I see another crazy Florida post, I'm glad I don't work there." ~ Minneapolis Security on Florida Security Law

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            • #21
              Our company policy is that we are not allowed to aspects any gifts, tips, food or anything that may construe as a conflict of interest and/or involvement with or compromise our official position with the company. If the person wont take "no thank you" for an answer than we can take it and send it to the regional manger and they’ll keep it , well they are to return it to the person.

              I work in a corporate setting and like cp73 said some of them feel like they own us. The only stuff we get is food from facilities (whatever they didn’t eat), cleaners, and the cooks (which is going to be thrown in the garbage if we don’t take it anyway because these white collar folks wont eat perfectly good food made the day before).
              Last edited by DizZy SO; 12-07-2006, 09:50 AM. Reason: typo
              DizZy SO

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              • #22
                Originally posted by DizZy SO
                (which is going to be thrown in the garbage if we don’t take it anyway because these white color folks wont eat perfectly good food made the day before).
                I do hope you mean, "white collar" folks.
                "Alright guys listen up, ya'll have probably heard this before, Jackson vs. Securiplex corporation; I am a private security officer, I have no State or governmental authority. I stand as an ordinary citizen. I have no right to; detain, interrogate or otherwise interfere with your personal property-... basically all that means is I'm a cop."-Officer Ernie
                "The Curve" 1998

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by N. A. Corbier
                  Its amusing because you can't actually bribe a security person unless they have specific authority vested in them by the state, and are considered "public employees."

                  While it may be against company policy to take tips, you can't usually bribe a security person legally.
                  I was using "bribe" as in being paid to do something you should not do, such as "Hey Mr. Security Guard, disappear around back for 15 minutes and I will give you this $50." While technically not illegal as a bribe (aiding and abetting issues aside) it is definatly unethical. As opposed to escorting a customer to their car, and upon arrival at the car, the customer offering a $5 tip.
                  I was not using "bribe" as a legal term.
                  "Gun control, the theory that 110lb. women have the "right" to fistfight with 210lb. rapists. " Author Unknown

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                  • #24
                    Excluding the BFI trashman we have no one visit our closed down Industrial site. But do read below


                    With the many wildlife on site of 144 acers of woods occasioanlly we do
                    offer baby sitting services to the Deer, Bobcats, and Badgers, and they
                    reward us with cups of coffee.

                    Have a Good Christmas Guys and Gals.
                    http://www.laurel-and-hardy.com/ Greatest Comedy team ever!

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                    • #25
                      Per company policy, we are supposed to decline any tips or offerings as it were; However, and mind you, we're not talking about a guest offering me a Fifty because I wrote him up for parking in a tow zone or likewise another guest offering me Five bucks because I brought them fresh bedsheets or a blanket and some firestarters...

                      That said, if the situation arises where a guest offers me a gratuity, I will of course decline...

                      BUT

                      If they press the issue and ask me a second time to accept it, then there is nothing my Office can do since I truthfully rejected the first offer...
                      “Two wrongs don't make a right, but three rights make a left”
                      "I swear to God, I'm going to pistol whip the next guy that says 'Shenanigans' "... Capt. O'Hagan, "Super Troopers"

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Andy Taylor
                        I was using "bribe" as in being paid to do something you should not do, such as "Hey Mr. Security Guard, disappear around back for 15 minutes and I will give you this $50." While technically not illegal as a bribe (aiding and abetting issues aside) it is definatly unethical. As opposed to escorting a customer to their car, and upon arrival at the car, the customer offering a $5 tip.
                        I was not using "bribe" as a legal term.
                        Every one in a while, someone's been told by their company that you can bribe a security guard, and both the guard and the person can go to jail for it (Or only the guard, usually...)

                        Its amazing what companies will tell employees.
                        Some Kind of Commando Leader

                        "Every time I see another crazy Florida post, I'm glad I don't work there." ~ Minneapolis Security on Florida Security Law

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by BHR Lawson
                          I do hope you mean, "white collar" folks.
                          Yes I do. White collar not color. Sorry about that. Hope I didn't offend anyone or myself for that matter.
                          DizZy SO

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                          • #28
                            Just thought I would bring this 1 forward since we are discussing accepting gifts in a hotel security post.

                            The day I resigned from 1 LPM job to accept an NLPM role, a lady whose bag stolen that I recovered from a thief (he dumped it not knowing it was loaded with $$ from her firm) came to see me with a thank you card + $250.00 gift card. I declined her offer until she reminded me I had resigned and would be let go soon, so I could technically accept it from her. After a big thank you to her , I purchased a new leather work bag for $10.00 more than the card and was let go 1 hour later. This same bag has travelled around Australia with me and still reminds me of the day my life moved on.
                            "Keep your friends close and your enemies even closer" Sun Tzu

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                            • #29
                              When I used to work for the biggest guard outfit in the US, we had a client who gave each of his employees a turkey and a ham at Thanksgiving. He included the guards in this program for years.
                              One year, a shiny new site supervisor thought that is was wrong to accept the client's turkeys, because it looks bad, and might lead him to expect special treatment. The District Manager agreed, and told the guards "no turkeys!"
                              The guards squawked to me, and I reminded the District Manager that the person who was giving us the guards turkeys was the same person who signed our contract - and our checks - and he BETTER get "special treatment!"
                              The District Manager reversed himself, but not in time for the guards to get their turkeys.
                              "Striking terrific terror in the hearts of criminals everywhere" Since 1977.

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                              • #30
                                I'm not sure what company policy is. In training we were told we shouldn't. Personally I believe as long as it doesn't effect the way you provide services, I don't see a problem with it. Only thing I've ever received was a cup of coffee.

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