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  • Come the 31st we loose all our rides. Foot patrol for all!
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    -Being bagger at Publix has more respect these days

    -It's just a job kid deal with it

    -The industry needs to do one of two things; stop fiddling with the thin line and go forward or go back to that way it was. A flashlight in one hand and your set of keys in the other

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    • Originally posted by N. A. Corbier View Post
      Fleets of the future won't be driving Prius-es or Escapes. What they will be driving is CVPI, Impala, Expedition, and Tahoe Hybrids. Chevy is already coming out with Tahoe and Impala hybrids, to complement the FlexFuel models.
      This is the first time I heard of the Impala coming out with a hybrid.I must have been sleeping under a rock.I wish Ford would come out with one for the Crown Vic as the Crown Vic can really take a beating.Miami-Dade has several 95-97 Crown Vics still on patrol.

      We put over 300k miles on ours and we get them from the police department with over 100k miles to start off with.But it looks like Ford wants to kill the line in or about 2012 from what I hear from Ford so guess that a hybrid Crown Vic isn't going to happen anytime soon.Hopefully Ford will come out with another type of Interceptor before they kill the Crown Vic and hopefully it will be a hybrid.

      The hybrid Impala would be a great seller for sure.I would consider that for my own personnel car as well.I drove a Charger not long ago and between the blind spots and tiny windows I like the Impala better.Between the Impala and Charger I would rather have the Impala with the F.W.D though the Crown Vic is my first choice.Most of Miami uses the Impala for supervisors cars but use the CVPI for patrol work.

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      • I've driven police package Crown Vic's, Impala's and Chargers. The Charger handles like a dream, neither of the other two can hold a candle to it. The windows take a little getting used to but it isn't a difficult transition.
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        • Originally posted by Tennsix View Post
          I've driven police package Crown Vic's, Impala's and Chargers. The Charger handles like a dream, neither of the other two can hold a candle to it. The windows take a little getting used to but it isn't a difficult transition.
          I'm still trying to convince our owner to get me a Charger... So far he isn't very open to the idea... 'course, I haven't shown him the mock-up of our decals on a pic of a Charger that I photoshopped the other day, either... I may just have to shoot it to him in an email... Heheheh
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          BANG, next thing you know Bob's your Uncle and this Sgt is seemingly out on his a$$.
          Shoulda called in sick.
          Be safe!

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          • Patrol vehicles, what do you get to drive?

            The Very best Duty Ride I ever had was a 1973 Buick LeSabre. Big, Comfey, Extremely fast Handled good (heavy /super duty every thing) next best was an 85 Full sized GMC Jimmy. 350 ,4spd, 4bbl. carb, would do a c note in 4wd.
            inbetween were a bunch of Chrysler K cars, which sucked in everey concievable way.

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            • I'm curious if anybody use motorcycle on duty.
              Not many but few chauffeurs are armed to protect clients.

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              • Originally posted by Limo LA View Post
                I'm curious if anybody use motorcycle on duty.
                I'm working on that at this time... I plan on using the Kawasaki Police bike outfitted with an Airhorn, Amber strobes in the front and Amber/Red in the rear..
                I thought about LEDs but I think strobes do a better job of getting attention.
                (I'm thinking of expanding into funeral escorts.)

                Even if I don't expand,I'm still going to get on a motor...Let's face it, generally speaking private security in Southern California doesn't hook ,book and transport bodies. We call in the P.D. or Sheriff after we detain. It seems to me that a patrol officer can get to more locations on a bike in less time with less overhead costs than an officer in a tricked out Crown Vic or Chevy Impala sitting in So Cal traffic while gulping fuel at nearly $4.00 a gallon

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                • This means your patrol division needs to have employees with motorcycle endorsements.

                  Everyone knows how to drive a CVPI, or a Kia, or whatever. Not everyone knows how to ride a motorcycle.

                  If you're thinking fuel economy, go buy a tiny car or a hybrid or something. The motorcycles for patrol is going to limit your ability to hire patrol personnel.
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                  • I know of a small patrol company based 2 streets away from my house. They are using Yariz's due to size, running costs and ease for some people to driver (don't get me started there). With fuel still hovering around the $4.50 US a gallon, the need to save every dollar in patrol costs to remain competitive is something every patrol firm needs to remember and with the usually 200 - 300 miles a night (mileage is important).

                    1 firm I know of had motorbikes as there patrol cars and alarm response units and due to the number of staff without motorbike licences have reduced their fleet to a few units. Our police motorbikes were custom fitted to each rider so that mean the bike was only of use for 8 hours a day under the old roster - now they are used for highway patrol and ceremonial escorts.
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                    • Originally posted by gonzo1510 View Post
                      Amber strobes in the front and Amber/Red in the rear..
                      I thought about LEDs but I think strobes do a better job of getting attention.
                      I think....
                      Amber strobe on side (lower Cowl, replace by taking reflector out) seems better.
                      Strobe on back might be too bright for any following vehicle. I go with LED on back.
                      If you need wiring diagram, I do have one.
                      Siren switch, Pursue switch (manufactured original) may tricky wiring.

                      Do you (your company) own Kawasaki already ?
                      If not yet, I know one shop who always have more than 20 Kawasaki KZ1000P ($2500 to $4000) and BMW R1100 & 1150RTP ($8000 up) from CHP and PDs.
                      Most of them are well maintained by PD and motor officers.

                      (I'm thinking of expanding into funeral escorts.)
                      Do you know what kind of license/permit need to do Funeral escort? (In CA)
                      if you do, please let me know.
                      (it's off topic of this thread, so if you know any regulation for escort, please e-mail me)
                      I'm thinking about expand for armed escort.
                      But it won't do anything with traffic control.
                      Executive protection service with multi car in LA area may lose primary in sight because LA's traffic.
                      if security follow primary's car with motor, security will never lose primary even heavy traffic.
                      (you can't fly over lanes or jump over car between primary and security, but Motorcycle can)

                      Even if I don't expand,I'm still going to get on a motor...Let's face it, generally speaking private security in Southern California doesn't hook ,book and transport bodies
                      I've seen a lot of pick up truck on gated residence and mall in LA, Beverly Hills, etc.
                      SUV maybe understand but I always wonder "Why pickup truck? are they transport something big ?".

                      I read one security patroling with Kawasaki in private community (Gated community) on Kawasaki 1000P website.
                      Last edited by Limo LA; 03-26-2008, 07:29 AM.
                      Not many but few chauffeurs are armed to protect clients.

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                      • Pick up trucks are used because they're "small" and therefore "fuel efficient."
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                        • Originally posted by N. A. Corbier View Post
                          This means your patrol division needs to have employees with motorcycle endorsements....
                          True...that pretty much goes without saying..

                          Originally posted by NRM_Oz View Post
                          I know of a small patrol company based 2 streets away from my house. They are using Yariz's due to size, running costs and ease for some people to driver (don't get me started there). With fuel still hovering around the $4.50 US a gallon, the need to save every dollar in patrol costs to remain competitive is something every patrol firm needs to remember and with the usually 200 - 300 miles a night (mileage is important).
                          I saw a company running around with the Toyota Prius all tricked out in the Downtown L.A. area.

                          Originally posted by Limo LA View Post
                          Do you (your company) own Kawasaki already ?
                          If not yet, I know one shop who always have more than 20 Kawasaki KZ1000P ($2500 to $4000) and BMW R1100 & 1150RTP ($8000 up) from CHP and PDs.
                          Most of them are well maintained by PD and motor officers.
                          You talking about Hollywood Motors? Yeah, I plan on going through them or Burbank Kawasaki..

                          Originally posted by Limo LA View Post
                          Do you know what kind of license/permit need to do Funeral escort? (In CA)
                          if you do, please let me know.
                          (it's off topic of this thread, so if you know any regulation for escort, please e-mail me)
                          I'm thinking about expand for armed escort.
                          But it won't do anything with traffic control.
                          For funeral escorts, there is no licensing requirement that I am aware of and most of the funeral guys I've spoken with are independent contractors...

                          For armed escort, then you need your PPO since you are providing a security service...
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                          • Originally posted by gonzo1510 View Post
                            You talking about Hollywood Motors? Yeah, I plan on going through them or Burbank Kawasaki..
                            Hollywood Motors has more inventory than Burbank Kawasaki (for Used Police motor)
                            My CHP friend told me there is another police Bike shop in Long beach but I don't know where, it maybe for newer BMWs.
                            Once my Kawasaki get fuel stack in carburetor, then I took it to Mikuni Carburetor R&D division (I have friends there).
                            they (Manufacturer's R&D guys) are very impressed for bike was well taken care by former owner (PD).
                            you can tell Engine, Carb, Sprocket, etc were regularly overhauled and adjusted by just look at gasket and seals.
                            But there would be some cosmetic damage.
                            I think you should choose from large inventory shop like Hollywood motors than just one or two in stock shop.

                            For funeral escorts, there is no licensing requirement that I am aware of and most of the funeral guys I've spoken with are independent contractors...
                            I thought they need some kind of traffic control permit/license/certificate.
                            I kind of know Company (not escort him/her self) need permit form city.

                            For armed escort, then you need your PPO since you are providing a security service...
                            I'm PPO licensee with all weapon permits but I'm not making much money from my PPO license because I protect my Limo clients most of time.
                            Last edited by Limo LA; 03-27-2008, 04:52 AM.
                            Not many but few chauffeurs are armed to protect clients.

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                            • Originally posted by N. A. Corbier View Post
                              Pick up trucks are used because they're "small" and therefore "fuel efficient."
                              I have always been fond of 4X4 Pick-Ups, because the bed allows for easy transportation of traffic controls and four wheel drive is a life saver.

                              Originally posted by gonzo1510 View Post
                              Even if I don't expand,I'm still going to get on a motor...Let's face it, generally speaking private security in Southern California doesn't hook ,book and transport bodies. We call in the P.D. or Sheriff after we detain. It seems to me that a patrol officer can get to more locations on a bike in less time with less overhead costs than an officer in a tricked out Crown Vic or Chevy Impala sitting in So Cal traffic while gulping fuel at nearly $4.00 a gallon

                              Thoughts ?.......
                              Motorcycles seem like a bad idea to me just because they offer no protection from the elements. Anyone that concerned about fuel ecconomy and access (bikes can go a lot of place that cars cannot) should probably get a Mule/Gator or a Tracker/Samuria. Then again the elements/terrain are probably not a major concern in SoCal. And I will admit that you will not get much call for funeral escorts in a Gator.
                              Last edited by Mr. Chaple; 03-27-2008, 07:32 AM.
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                              • Black & White Minneapolis Police Cars?

                                I could have sworn, that I saw a black and white squad ( all black with white front doors, black back doors) driving code 3, crossing University Ave. exiting onto 35W north, with what looked like a big MPD badge decal on the door... It looked a lot like the new MN State Patrol cars, but it was black, not maroon. Have any of you other Minnesotans seen these?
                                Apparently a HUGE cop wannabe...

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