Patrol vehicles, what do you get to drive?

[N. A. Corbier]

Thanks. Why is Florida so restrictive on S/O's?

Because we invented America's security licensing in the 1970s. NASIR, where everyone looks to for guidance, was founded by the first Director of the Division of Licensing of the State of Florida.

Security legislation, Chapter 493, is extremely reactionary. In the 1970s, you could carry a Winchester (Repeating Rifle) as a guard. That was taken away and all you could carry was a .38 revolver without special permission in the late 70s.

It used to be you could use colored lights off public roads. Chapter 493 ensured that any light color, ANY light color, other than amber was illegal to possess for a licensed security guard/officer. (93 turned guards into Officers under state statute, but in name only, no vested powers)

It used to be that security personnel could use force to protect property under Florida Statutes 775, just like any other citizen. Something must of happened, because FSS 493.6118(j) ensures that its a crime to use force to do anything but protect people from physical attack.

Reactionary legislation, that's all. As the climate in Tallahassee improves towards security and more lobbyists are in place for the industry, the laws will be repealed or altered.

[FireEMSPolice]

We just got a 2007 Honda CR-V to replace our crappy 2002 Chevrolet Blazer. Unfortunately, in order to get this truck (valued at $28K) for $1.00, it must be a rolling billboard . So the sponsor put clouds and their dealership building on the side of it. It also sports a chinese knock-off lightbar from Uniform Warehouse.

[BadBoynMD]

Wackenhut in Florida is still issuing the .38 caliber or .357 caliber revolver with .38 Special ammunition. Security recently was authorized to carry 9mm semi-autos without the coveted special waiver.

Same for out here in Maryland. I think it's standard for Wackenhut...atleast it seems...

[N. A. Corbier]

I think it is, I think they have thousands of .38s nationwide, and only use semi-autos when contracts require them.

[Echos13]

Most of them are retired LEO guns. Some are "new" TWC guns in their time. Compared to the amount of CPOs they have actually working to that of stock piled .38s you think they could trade two in for a decent semi. One CPO traced his back to a small police department town in Missouri. Going back 16 years! Gee, wonder how old the ammo is?

[gcmc security part 2]

Most of them are retired LEO guns. Some are "new" TWC guns in their time. Compared to the amount of CPOs they have actually working to that of stock piled .38s you think they could trade two in for a decent semi. One CPO traced his back to a small police department town in Missouri. Going back 16 years! Gee, wonder how old the ammo is?

At our office, never older than a year. We replace everyones issued rounds yearly.

[N. A. Corbier]

I cleaned a supervisor's weapon, a .38 Colt Trooper from NYSP, once. (He wasn't good at cleaning the layer of rust, I cleaned it, sealed it, and reblued it for him. Helps when you dad was a reloader, armorer, and built his own rifles.)

It was determined the weapon was about 50 years old.

[BadBoynMD]

At our office, never older than a year. We replace everyones issued rounds yearly.

Thanks for reminding me, I gotta replace my ammo LOL

[Bill Warnock]

Speaking of ammo, just to be on the safe side ensure you turn boxes of ammo from right side up to bottom side up every couple of months. In that way the powder will not pack within the cartridges.
We learned that in the Air Police Academy. It can be a pain when you are doing this to air base defense ammo, but well worth it in the long run.
Enjoy the day,
Bill

[HotelSecurity]

Speaking of ammo, just to be on the safe side ensure you turn boxes of ammo from right side up to bottom side up every couple of months. In that way the powder will not pack within the cartridges.
We learned that in the Air Police Academy. It can be a pain when you are doing this to air base defense ammo, but well worth it in the long run.
Enjoy the day,
Bill

Way off of the original topic but along the lines of Bill's post. Don't forget to turn upside down, shake & tap your dry chemical fire extinguishers once in a while for the reason as in Bill's post.

[Badge714]

Our company has Chevy Impalas which are slowly being replaced with Dodge Chargers. Some areas have led light bars on the cars. At the mines we use Dodge Ram crew cab pickups with red/blue light bars.
Here in the hinterlands, I have a Chevy Impala with 160,000 on it. I'll be getting a hand-me-down Charger next year, maybe.

[Bill Warnock]

Way off of the original topic but along the lines of Bill's post. Don't forget to turn upside down, shake & tap your dry chemical fire extinguishers once in a while for the reason as in Bill's post.

Thank you young man, another item for the security guide, with your credit.
Enjoy the day and thanks again,
Bill

[BadBoynMD]

Our company has Chevy Impalas which are slowly being replaced with Dodge Chargers. Some areas have led light bars on the cars. At the mines we use Dodge Ram crew cab pickups with red/blue light bars.
Here in the hinterlands, I have a Chevy Impala with 160,000 on it. I'll be getting a hand-me-down Charger next year, maybe.

I'm looking at an Impala, but can't stop thinking about getting a charger. However, i'll most likely will end up with the Impala.

[bigdog]

At first glanc, they did look red and blue. I hope nobody's going to complain, but even if they do, it'll take at least 2 years to change the law back.

Its also heartwarming to see a G4S branch actually order a green cover, even if it is for an ancient Streethawk.

One PPPD officer I know is already bitching that the forest green lightbars look blue at night when not activated.

[BadBoynMD]

One PPPD officer I know is already bitching that the forest green lightbars look blue at night when not activated.

Tell 'em to build a bridge and get over it.