Question about making arrests

[GordonSecurity Member Find all posts View Profile Close GordonSecurity]

If you witness a large group of teenagers defacing property that you were hired to protect, what should you do?

[bigshotceo Member Find all posts View Profile Close bigshotceo]

Call the police. One of you vs many of them=bad.

[officergossman Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close officergossman]

I agree with bigshot! If you have backup, get them and maybe go out in the situation. Be calm but firm, teens with their attitudes and all, lol, i remember my teen years which wasnt to long ago

[EMTGuard Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close EMTGuard]

Let's see. I'm there to observe and report so... Since I've observed them I guess the next thing to do is report them.

[jeff194307 Member Find all posts View Profile Close jeff194307]

Get a good clothing discription and direction of travel when you call the police. They will likely run when they see you, but that is not gauranteed. Fill out your report to your client. Never go into a many vs one situation.

[EMTjon Member Find all posts View Profile Close EMTjon]

If it is an account where I have LOTS of friends who can help me... then I'd call for LOTS of friends and then WE confront them... otherwise, I'd get the PD out there and advise them it is a LARGE group... and then assist the police in any way I can.

Jon

[SecureTN Member Find all posts View Profile Close SecureTN]

What they said...lol

[Bill Warnock Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Bill Warnock]

Call the police. One of you vs many of them=bad.

bigshotceo:
You have written wisely. We forget the "Ten Deadly Sins" or vicariously known as the "Ten Commandments of Security and Law Enforcement" at our peril. There is always time in the situation thus described to wait for backup. They are defacing property far better than defacing you.
Enjoy the day,
Bill

[NUCGUY Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close NUCGUY]

In most circumstances you would be better off to contact PD and address the individuals as a group. Most likely your client will want to have the book thrown at them and in very few circumstances can a private security officer issue a citation to anyone. In addition the number factor must be addressed as well. For the most part officer presence will deter this type of problem especially if word gets out that the PD and your dept work well together.

[Mr. Security Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Mr. Security]

GordonSecurity

Are you a security officer? The reason I ask is because your training should have covered this and other situations that you will encounter. Moreover, the "right" answer depends on who employs you, the post orders, and the type of security you do.

[Special Investigator Member Find all posts View Profile Close Special Investigator]

In Wisconsin, a SO is expected to observe, report to police and then run away.

[EMTGuard Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close EMTGuard]

Are you a security officer? The reason I ask is because your training should have covered this and other situations that you will encounter. Moreover, the "right" answer depends on who employs you, the post orders, and the type of security you do.

That is...IF you get ANY training at all in the first place. Here we have Guards who are hired, given unifroms and badges and sent to a post within an hour of filling out and application and passing the background check. You can work for up to six months with a temporary card before being required to take 16 hours of mandatory training. Wich brings up the question, If you can work 6 months without the training, why do you need the training at all?

[N. A. Corbier Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close N. A. Corbier]

That is...IF you get ANY training at all in the first place. Here we have Guards who are hired, given unifroms and badges and sent to a post within an hour of filling out and application and passing the background check. You can work for up to six months with a temporary card before being required to take 16 hours of mandatory training. Wich brings up the question, If you can work 6 months without the training, why do you need the training at all?

Makes the state feel good. They're complying with industry "suggestions" that the training not be immediate, while still complying with the IASIR and ASIS suggestions that guards be regulated and receive training.