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Listen to ol' Uncle SecTrainer here, boys...for your own sake, do NOT "fix" or in any other way modify any sprinkler system without having the proper training, authorization, FD approval and, in some states, fire protection system licensing.
I don't care what it's "costing" the company to have water leaks, how annoying it might seem to "do nothing", or anything else. I don't care if the last known copy of the Gutenberg Bible is dissolving into a puddle of damp crumbs. I'd move the Bible if I could or take some other action to preserve the asset, but this is truly one of the few cases where I'm in agreement with the "observe and report" principle as the absolute extent of what you should do because Life Safety code enforcement is deadly serious business. You want this to come down on the company if it comes down on anyone...and not on you. In fact, if a fire marshall comes in and finds wooden wedges, self-purchased sprinkler heads installed, 55-gallon drums and funnels, or any of the other things being done that some people have suggested here, heads WILL roll, and it's even possible that somebody's gonna go to jail.
Something else to consider is that there's a strict protocol for recharging "wet" systems, etc. - as this appears to be - after repairs are made, sprinkler heads replaced, etc. There's air that has to be bled, pressures have to be re-equilibrated, and a whoooooole bunch of other stuff that goes into bringing the system back on line and if you don't do it just right, well, "getting wet" isn't going to be one of your worries at all, no sir, unless there happens to be a leak in the fire system over at the unemployment office too 'cause that's the very best you can hope for. Me, I'd flat can an officer in a New York minute if he did any of this stuff.
Now, as I said, if you can take some other action to protect the asset, fine. If you see a computer getting wet, for instance, you might be able to move it out of harm's way, throw plastic tarp over it or do something like that and you'd have my congratulations, perhaps even a nice little "spiff" as your supervisor for your quick thinking. If you dash over to Ace Hardware or jump on the Web to buy sprinkler heads or do mods to the fire system of any kind, though, your "spiff" would be pink in color and would say "Dear Mr. Fire System Fixer-Upper-Modder: YOU'RE FIRED!"Last edited by SecTrainer; 12-12-2006, 04:51 PM.
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Originally posted by cnick001The product you are looking for is the sprinkler stop, sold at thefirestore.com
Here's the link for it, http://www.thefirestore.com/store/pr...prinkler_stop/
Sure you're gonna get soaked putting it in, but it can save a big headache in the long run.I don't mind taking a shower if I can prevent a flood.
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The product you are looking for is the sprinkler stop, sold at thefirestore.com
Here's the link for it, http://www.thefirestore.com/store/pr...prinkler_stop/
Sure you're gonna get soaked putting it in, but it can save a big headache in the long run.
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Originally posted by Mr. SecurityThey are lazy and resent my thoroughness, which has saved the client thousands. Since it makes them look bad, they are pressuring me to conform to their "we don't care" attitude, typical WBS stuff. I'm tired of fighting a hopeless battle. The system is broken and there isn't anything that I can do by myself to change it. Now I just hit the electronic keys and move on. I've given up; my spirit is broken.
Bill
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Originally posted by Mr. SecurityThey are lazy and resent my thoroughness, which has saved the client thousands. Since it makes them look bad, they are pressuring me to conform to their "we don't care" attitude, typical WBS stuff. I'm tired of fighting a hopeless battle. The system is broken and there isn't anything that I can do by myself to change it. Now I just hit the electronic keys and move on. I've given up; my spirit is broken.
Give it a few, they'll put you back in the suit, too.
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Originally posted by Bill WarnockMr. Security:
It happens when you do not wear blinders. What do your post and/or patrol orders state? Are you just to make a ride by or look for things out of place or that may pose a danger?
He may not have the experience or the moxie and therefore represent "bright-eyed and bushy tailed." That will make a novice superior nervous.
In a subtle fashion, what five elements need to be in place to establish a crime or point in that direction? Don't push it, look deadpan and watch the facial expressions.
Enjoy the day,
Bill
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Originally posted by Mr. SecurityPS: He also said I take too long on my patrols. Must be making him look bad. WBS is what they want, then so be it.
It happens when you do not wear blinders. What do your post and/or patrol orders state? Are you just to make a ride by or look for things out of place or that may pose a danger?
He may not have the experience or the moxie and therefore represent "bright-eyed and bushy tailed." That will make a novice superior nervous.
In a subtle fashion, what five elements need to be in place to establish a crime or point in that direction? Don't push it, look deadpan and watch the facial expressions.
Enjoy the day,
Bill
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Originally posted by Mr. SecurityOne of my supervisors called yesterday. He wanted to let me know something I did wrong. Never hear from him when I go above and beyond. Ingrate!!!
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Originally posted by JackholeNever do this! Oils and ointments insulate the burn, causing the burning to continue.
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Originally posted by JackholeKetone, AKA methyl-eythl-bad****
He said that was what they gave him to use.
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Originally posted by EricGrowing up, did you hear to put butter on a burn? Yea, like I am a cob of corn
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Originally posted by N. A. CorbierMethyl-Ethyl-Keritone or something...
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Growing up, did you hear to put butter on a burn? Yea, like I am a cob of corn
Originally posted by HotelSecurityWater, cool water. Soak your knuckle then wrap it in clean guaze. Don't use oinments or "fluffy" guaze. I suggest that first aid kits contain gel soaked bandages specially made for burns/scalds. I know of & use 2 makes. Burn Gel & Burn Free. They work great An over the counter pain killer sometimes helps.
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Originally posted by Mr. SecurityThis is just one of many water leaks that I have caught while on patrol, saving the client thousands. Neither the branch nor my supervisor has ever said: "Good Job." In fact, some of these water leaks weren't even noticed by officers on duty before me.
Needless to say, this is very discouraging and right now I just feel like doing what the other guards do.....nothing.
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