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  • #46
    Originally posted by Marchetti, David, M
    I agree 110% I'd be FIRED and SUED too if I did not act, Hotel some here are warm bodies in uniforms nothing more. Some are former P.O.'s who feel Security Officers are not Police Officers so they are not allowed to be proactive while on duty i.e. the observe & report mentality. I would expect you to act as the crime victim, as your supervisor, and as the owner of the hotel. Otherwise why bother having security on the property to stand around and look pretty in a uniform?.
    We don't wear uniforms
    I enforce rules and regulations, not laws.
    Security Officers. The 1st First Responders.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Marchetti, David, M
      I agree 110% I'd be FIRED and SUED too if I did not act, Hotel some here are warm bodies in uniforms nothing more. Some are former P.O.'s who feel Security Officers are not Police Officers so they are not allowed to be proactive while on duty i.e. the observe & report mentality. I would expect you to act as the crime victim, as your supervisor, and as the owner of the hotel. Otherwise why bother having security on the property to stand around and look pretty in a uniform?.
      He isn't pretty either.
      Security: Freedom from fear; danger; safe; a feeling of well-being. (Webster's)

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Mr. Security
        He isn't pretty either.
        Hey I think I'm being insulted
        I enforce rules and regulations, not laws.
        Security Officers. The 1st First Responders.

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        • #49
          hotels in fla.

          Originally posted by HotelSecurity
          We don't wear uniforms
          Having been a security supervisor at a major hotel in Fla. I was very up on the law at that time. Most hotels will not hire armed security guards because of the insurance costs involved. but if one is armed the only circumstance in which you could use your weapon was to stop a perp. from injuring a guest, or your self. The sop was to call the police to handle the situation unless there was dire need to protect a life, not property.

          Since, a law has been passed that permits the use of deadly force if you feel threatened for your life. Fla. has concealed weapon permits for ordinary citizens. They also can use deadly force if they feel threatened for their life.

          For the most part an armed guard usually will be working for some type of company other than the hospitality industry.
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          • #50
            Originally posted by dmarshall
            Having been a security supervisor at a major hotel in Fla. I was very up on the law at that time. Most hotels will not hire armed security guards because of the insurance costs involved. but if one is armed the only circumstance in which you could use your weapon was to stop a perp. from injuring a guest, or your self. The sop was to call the police to handle the situation unless there was dire need to protect a life, not property.

            Since, a law has been passed that permits the use of deadly force if you feel threatened for your life. Fla. has concealed weapon permits for ordinary citizens. They also can use deadly force if they feel threatened for their life.

            For the most part an armed guard usually will be working for some type of company other than the hospitality industry.
            I'm sorry, can you explain what you mean by "to stop a perp from injuring a guest or yourself," then go on to state that "since," a law has been passed that permits the use of deadly force if you feel threatened for your life?

            See, Florida authorizes deadly force only if you are immediately threatened with death or great bodily harm, and has since the 1990s at least. Most likely longer. The only modification is the removal of the duty.

            As far as "The sop was to call the police to handle the situation unless there was dire need to protect a life, not property," this was your company, not Florida Statutes. Florida Statutes authorizes people to protect others with force from battery as well as reclaim property. There is no duty to report in Florida, except for sexual battery, which means that you could grab a person fighting your front desk staff, throw him out, and not have to call the police.

            i.e. Using force to stop a battery, removing a trespasser using force, and barring the trespasser's reentry onto your property.

            Most companies, of course, advise their guards to stand there, get a good report, and call 911 while the front desk girl has her face caved in by the angry guest.
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            • #51
              Originally posted by HotelSecurity
              We don't wear uniforms
              Ohhhhh no uniform your going for that spooky Men In Black look, coollllllll. Do black sun glasses come with that too :O)

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Marchetti, David, M
                Ohhhhh no uniform your going for that spooky Men In Black look, coollllllll. Do black sun glasses come with that too :O)
                It's a hospitality thing. Remeber the old movies with the House Dick sitting in the lobby watching everything while pretending to read a newpaper? Hotels didn't want guests to know who the security was. Since those days we have changed from being reactive to proactive so at least now most of us are identifyable with a badge or name tag, but the hard oolice type uniform still hasn't become standard. ( Hotels that use Contract people tend to have uniformed staff more than us in house people as do hotels with casinos).
                I enforce rules and regulations, not laws.
                Security Officers. The 1st First Responders.

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