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    Hi I'm 21 and have a pretty ok background(one minor arrest for simple assault when I was 16 and a marijuan charge when I was 19 but i've grown since). That has dashed my chances of become a policeofficer But i've recently become interested in security enforcement.

    I have some questions about the training. I'd imagine it is very similiar to police training since the jobs go hand in hand, but what is the PT like for the private sector? How many hours of training do you undergo until you can finally hit the streets? I figure the training is done in a very para-military atmosphere. But do they eventually let up on you as you prove yourself acceptable to wear the badge? Also how much of the training is waiverable to become a police officer? Finally once you graduate do you get full authority 24/7 or only while on duty. And if you are armed can you carry in other states?

    I'm real excited about this chance. Sorry if these questions are dumb I'm new to the game

  • #2
    Originally posted by SEOHopeful1
    Also how much of the training is waiverable to become a police officer?
    The police academy training is not considered equivalent to us. You couldn't just go through a police academy and then get a certification. You have to be trained in Security. Take Security training and pass the state test.

    Try not to compare the police to security. We are like the police only we are above.
    Last edited by The_Mayor; 11-08-2005, 12:43 PM.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by SEOHopeful1
      Hi I'm 21 and have a pretty ok background(one minor arrest for simple assault when I was 16 and a marijuan charge when I was 19 but i've grown since). That has dashed my chances of become a policeofficer But i've recently become interested in security enforcement.

      I have some questions about the training. I'd imagine it is very similiar to police training since the jobs go hand in hand, but what is the PT like for the private sector? How many hours of training do you undergo until you can finally hit the streets? I figure the training is done in a very para-military atmosphere. But do they eventually let up on you as you prove yourself acceptable to wear the badge? Also how much of the training is waiverable to become a police officer? Finally once you graduate do you get full authority 24/7 or only while on duty. And if you are armed can you carry in other states?

      I'm real excited about this chance. Sorry if these questions are dumb I'm new to the game
      Ok, first, welcome to SecurityInfoWatch.com. That having said,

      What state are you in?

      Oh, and the very most important question, which anime do you like? Some can be a disqualifier. A complete background investigation will include checking your credit report for charges to ADV, Amazon, etc.

      Oh, and guys? I know of companies that are like what this person is describing. Personally, without a background investigation and criminal records check, I can't comment on if you would be hired by some companies, but there are always companies that will put you in a shirt with a square badge and let you stand a static post where you can practice reading, needlework, or school studies.

      For me, assault is not a disqualifer, however, misdomeanor battery may be. Marajuana Poesssion may or may not be a disqualifier in your state, any felony is.

      And, um, I do have to agree with The_Mayor. Just as security training (for those who get it) is only similar in some aspects to police training, police training is not completely compatible with security training. This is why in most states, a certified LEO must take state security officer firearms training - you are using deadly force without the protection of public office.
      Last edited by N. A. Corbier; 11-08-2005, 02:53 PM.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by The_Mayor
        The police academy training is not considered equivalent to us. You couldn't just go through a police academy and then get a certification. You have to be trained in Security. Take Security training and pass the state test.

        Try not to compare the police to security. We are like the police only we are above.
        I am not sure I follow. What do you mean?
        I believe I speak for everyone here sir, when I say, to Hell with our orders.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by The_Mayor
          The police academy training is not considered equivalent to us. You couldn't just go through a police academy and then get a certification. You have to be trained in Security. Take Security training and pass the state test.

          Try not to compare the police to security. We are like the police only we are above.
          Mayor, please refrain from applying your own personal opinions to the rest of the industry. I am referring to your statement, "We are like the police only we are above." That is a personal opinion, and you are in no position to speak for the industry as a whole.

          Also, your advice lacks the finer details that this individual was requesting. Perhaps you can explain to this individual what your state requires for basic security training? You can go in further detail on what is required by your state to carry a firearm while employed as a security officer. As well as legal issues regarding arrest authority, or specific laws that apply to security officers in your state.
          "To win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the highest skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the highest skill." Sun-Tzu

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          • #6
            ......Or even better..
            SEOHopeful1, provide the name of the state in which you live, and I'll PM you some info on Security in your state.

            Just here to help.

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            • #7
              This is why in most states, a certified LEO must take state security officer firearms training - you are using deadly force without the protection of public office.
              There is no such requirement in Indiana. Could you elaborate?

              Actually, Indiana has no mandated secuirty officer training. LEO's that work security, In Indiana, are still consider police officers and are authorized to use their police powers.
              I believe I speak for everyone here sir, when I say, to Hell with our orders.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by The_Mayor
                ......Or even better..
                SEOHopeful1, provide the name of the state in which you live, and I'll PM you some info on Security in your state.

                Just here to help.
                You have been in security for less than 4-months... How are you all of the sudden an expert on security regardless of what state it may be?
                "To win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the highest skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the highest skill." Sun-Tzu

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by davis002
                  You have been in security for less than 4-months... How are you all of the sudden an expert on security regardless of what state it may be?
                  Perhaps he stayed at a Holiday Inn last night.
                  I believe I speak for everyone here sir, when I say, to Hell with our orders.
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                  • #10
                    Don't get me wrong Mayor, maybe in the 4-months you learned quite a bit. Shopping Centers can be full of shoplifting, loitering, trespassing, vagrants, drug activity, etc. For all I know, you work in an 8-tenant strip mall. Or is it something else?
                    "To win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the highest skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the highest skill." Sun-Tzu

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by davis002
                      How are you all of the sudden an expert on security regardless of what state it may be?
                      I have never proclaimed to be an "expert on security".....perhaps you are?

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                      • #12
                        Mayor, are the gangs in Novato as bad as you make them sound?
                        "To win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the highest skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the highest skill." Sun-Tzu

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by davis002
                          Mayor, are the gangs in Novato as bad as you make them sound?
                          You mean they have outlaw skateboard gangs?
                          I believe I speak for everyone here sir, when I say, to Hell with our orders.
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                          • #14
                            i am in nj but i may go to pennsylvania because it is easier to have a gun.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by SEOHopeful1
                              i am in nj but i may go to pennsylvania because it is easier to have a gun.
                              If you are only interested in becoming a security officer to carry a firearm, I am having a hard time understanding your true reasons for wanting to become a security officer.

                              Explain to us why you truly feel you want to become a security officer.
                              "To win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the highest skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the highest skill." Sun-Tzu

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