Cya

[copelandamuffy]

Age old story in our business.
When in doubt, report it to a higher authority
I am at a remote site. My contact client is 1,800 miles away
My site is an old Industrial Site long closed down
All water, has been shut off at the site except for the Gatehouse
At least I assumed it was all shut off
The local fire department was on site for Hydrant flushing
Much too my surprise most of the fire hydrants were in working condition
As stated above we were told 3 years ago when we took
this contract all water, and I mean all water has been shut off
I could have ignored all this, but I called the client and let him know
a.s.a.p.

If you have any doubts about anything: make out an Incident Report,
and contact those who need to know.

[HotelSecurity]

Welcome Cope! Nice to see you found us overhere! It's going to be great to read your stories again

[GCMC Security]

The fire hydrants will have nothing to do with the water being on at your clients facility. The city will maintain keeping those on. WOuldn't make sense to turn them off if there are still building there.

[copelandamuffy]

These fire hydrants are on private
land. If I had a fire hydrant on my own property, I would expect myself
maintain same. Too long a story of who-what-why, these hydrants
are on and working on private land, and why the local municipal
fire department maintains them.

The fire hydrants were not the reason why I wrote this thread
My point is that always cover yourself. Never leave anything
out of your DAR, or wonder whether you should or should
not write out an Incident Report. ALWAYS DO IT !!!!!

Some of you know me by know from other web sites.
Like Hotel Security I have been in this business for 35 years
I have worked for the Pinkertons, Burns International Security,
and now I am working for that Swedish firm who adopted the
Pinkertons and Burns. And yes I have worked just about
every account you can think of. From protecting
a dirt pile dug up from Boston Harbor, to a laundromat,
working forFOX and ABC networks, to working at a Cllassical
Concert to Loss Prevention in Stores,and car dealerships

I am also much aware that an old dog can learn new tricks
Hotel Security will testify to that.

[GCMC Security]

I understand your arguement about private land. And you are absoluetly right everything out of the ordinary should be put into a DAR.

As for private property owners maintaining hydrants, how many home owners do you know that know how to flow test a hydrant or are going to spend the hundreds of dollars to purchase the equipment to do so? I look out on my front lawn and there's a hydrant on my 'private property' (according to my property lines) Fire Departments will ALMOST always maintain the hydrants in their jurisdiction (besides its them who have to rely on those hydrants to protect them)


I do realize this is not what your post was about but just letting you know. Welcome to post and hope to hear more from you.

[N. A. Corbier]

An interesting point is raised here. Most fire suppression systems are maintained privately, and must be maintained by law. However, there are laws in most -- if not all -- states relating to tampering with a hydrant. I know that in the City of Tampa, Florida, if someone activates a hydrant on private property it is a criminal offense. We had a kid uncap a hydrant once, the fire department responded to turn the thing off.

[GCMC Security]

An interesting point is raised here. Most fire suppression systems are maintained privately, and must be maintained by law. However, there are laws in most -- if not all -- states relating to tampering with a hydrant. I know that in the City of Tampa, Florida, if someone activates a hydrant on private property it is a criminal offense. We had a kid uncap a hydrant once, the fire department responded to turn the thing off.

Fire Suppresion systems are maintained privatly good point, Hydrants do not fall under that though. You should see the penalties that can arise from tampering with fire suppresions systems ie. sprinkler systems, standpipes and the such. Especially if there is a fatalaty in a fire due to it.

[Mr. Security]

Age old story in our business.
When in doubt, report it to a higher authority
I am at a remote site. My contact client is 1,800 miles away
My site is an old Industrial Site long closed down
All water, has been shut off at the site except for the Gatehouse
At least I assumed it was all shut off
The local fire department was on site for Hydrant flushing
Much too my surprise most of the fire hydrants were in working condition
As stated above we were told 3 years ago when we took
this contract all water, and I mean all water has been shut off
I could have ignored all this, but I called the client and let him know
a.s.a.p.

If you have any doubts about anything: make out an Incident Report,
and contact those who need to know.

Wise advice indeed. Just to add to your comment, some sites DO NOT want certain problems/conditions documented in an incident report. That is the case at one site where I work. The alternative is to inform your supervisor so that you are covered. Unfortunately, even when you do everything right, you can still end-up being the fall guy. Been there; done that.