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  • #16
    Originally posted by N. A. Corbier
    I don't think drilling Klingonese words into someone's head is really any different than numbers and letter combinations.

    Under extremely stressful situations, some people may revert to their first language. If it isn't English, I hope its Spanish and there's someone else who can translate on the radio.
    What about Russian? LOL.. when my assistant gets going, its "nif nif nif".. I give him a hard way to go over that, LOL!
    Deputy Sheriff

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Mall Director
      What about Russian? LOL.. when my assistant gets going, its "nif nif nif".. I give him a hard way to go over that, LOL!
      Then pray someone knows Russian.
      Some Kind of Commando Leader

      "Every time I see another crazy Florida post, I'm glad I don't work there." ~ Minneapolis Security on Florida Security Law

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      • #18
        Three things that just about all people do in their native language...
        When reacting to stress
        When having sex
        and cursing

        These are all baseline mental functions which takes VERY intense training to overcome. These are deep cover operatives nightmares.

        When you talk about using codes and have been trained by departments using two differant codes most wil revert to the earlier codes because thay are ingrained deeper.

        When my FD dropped codes I still would throw one out during a tough call as did most others.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by ACP01
          Three things that just about all people do in their native language...
          When reacting to stress
          When having sex
          and cursing

          These are all baseline mental functions which takes VERY intense training to overcome. These are deep cover operatives nightmares.

          When you talk about using codes and have been trained by departments using two differant codes most wil revert to the earlier codes because thay are ingrained deeper.

          When my FD dropped codes I still would throw one out during a tough call as did most others.
          I've streamed codes during SHTF situations myself, even after my previous employer dropped codes. It was also used as a "secret language" that only old-timers knew.
          Some Kind of Commando Leader

          "Every time I see another crazy Florida post, I'm glad I don't work there." ~ Minneapolis Security on Florida Security Law

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          • #20
            I agree, keeping in plain speech is safer but for really hostile/dangerous or you feel uncomfortable use these codes from the website for important stuff and everything else can be in speech.


            When talking to dispatch always first provide Unit number followed b location if you havnt already done that when leaving your vehicle in the first place (but you should always do that)


            example. Unit 11 *code*


            Code 3 Emergency
            10-15 Prisoner in Custody
            10-23 Stand By
            10-97 Arrived At Scene
            11-42 Paramedic Required (E M T)
            11-98 Officer Requires Help, Emergency
            10-4 Acknowledgement
            10-6 Busy, stand-by
            10-7X Out on portable
            10-32 Man with gun
            10-67 Person yelling for help
            10-71 Shooting
            10-72 Knifing
            Code 4 No further assistance

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            • #21
              As far as being concerned that person with whom your runnin' a check on would hear your traffic, why not just go and get a earpiece? I use otto earpieces, think the little clear tubes the alphabet soup agencies wear. I love it, they can't hear a thing and it doesn't interfer with your normal hearing.

              As far as radio codes and what not. Free speach is the way to go. With the sole exception being client codes, or for example, "117 I'll be out at 321 on foot" My competition doesn't need to know where I am. But that's just my thought. Besides in Oregon it isn't illegal to scan anyone ('cept cell phones and home phones etc), the only exception is if you did so for financial gain. Or, used it o find out who has who for clients and then went and poached them... Then of course YOU would have to proove they did, so just keep 'em in the dark as long as possible.
              ~Super Ninja Sniper~
              Corbier's Commandos

              Nemo me impune lacessit

              Grammical and Spelling errors may occur form time to time. Yoov bin worned

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              • #22
                Working in a suit & tie with no duty belt my pants would fall down if I carried my walkie-talkie on my belt so I carry it in my hand. Can't really have an earphone if you are carying it!
                I enforce rules and regulations, not laws.
                Security Officers. The 1st First Responders.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by HotelSecurity
                  Working in a suit & tie with no duty belt my pants would fall down if I carried my walkie-talkie on my belt so I carry it in my hand. Can't really have an earphone if you are carying it!
                  HotelSecurity, how do you maintain a quiet post? Moreover, if there is an altercation what happens to your hand-held radio? In hotels, as in other locations in society we have an element who have turned "let us prey" into an art form? How can you effectively respond?
                  Enjoy the day,
                  Bill

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Bill Warnock
                    HotelSecurity, how do you maintain a quiet post? Moreover, if there is an altercation what happens to your hand-held radio? In hotels, as in other locations in society we have an element who have turned "let us prey" into an art form? How can you effectively respond?
                    Enjoy the day,
                    Bill

                    WHen necessary I turn down the volume! Another things is that overnight there are, at the most, 3 walkie talkies & 1 base in use, not much traffic. After doing this for so many years you'd be surprised how you can still use your hand & hold onto the walkie-talkie. When things get real rough, it fits into the jacket pocket.
                    Last edited by HotelSecurity; 02-06-2007, 02:16 PM.
                    I enforce rules and regulations, not laws.
                    Security Officers. The 1st First Responders.

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                    • #25
                      We have just started on this caper at work. Usually there is only two of us per shift so it was security 1 to security 2.
                      Now every officer as there own code from Seirra Mike (the boss) then seirra 2 to 15. Phonetics and 10 codes we do not use. In emergency situations we use Colour Codes ie Code Red - Fire, Code Blue - Medical Emegency etc

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                      • #26
                        our company uses minimul 10 codes. mainly for on duty, off duty, break, requesting for police, dispatch telling police is on its way, emergency traffic, police on/off property, enroute somewhere, stuff like that. there have been many times I need pd but do not want the BG to know, but then a stupid dispatcher decides to use the word pd and freaks the BG out. many times we'll have a guard conducting an arrest and wants to get pd rolling before the cuffs are on because it might go bad, codes are a plus then.

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                        • #27
                          At the college where I work, we recently started using a special 10 code when the police are needed. We began using this code to lessen the amount of offenders running from us. This has worked very well so far, the bad guy has no idea what is happening until he is talking with P.D. instead of security.
                          Murphy was an optomist.

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                          • #28
                            Codes

                            Unless you use codes all the time (especially the trouble ones), you're likely to revert to plain language anyhow when things go south. Speaking in code is similar to learning another language. A novice has to "think" of the right interpretation to the new language instead of saying it automatically. Notice how some videos on TV demonstrate this in a crisis. The officer, pilot, etc.,starts yelling in plain English when the emergency reaches its peak.

                            Having a few codes might be appropriate. Otherwise, stick to normal everyday language on the radio to minimize confusion.
                            Security: Freedom from fear; danger; safe; a feeling of well-being. (Webster's)

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                            • #29
                              We can agree to disagree on this, but we have a number of dorms here on campus and we really do not wish that they know what we are saying a all times. ( They have radios and are monitoring our transmissions) It is entirely possible that the dorm monitor may have a friend who may be the subject of our incident and it would not be appropriate to use plain english and allow everyone on campus to know what we are doing.
                              Murphy was an optomist.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by jeff194307
                                We can agree to disagree on this, but we have a number of dorms here on campus and we really do not wish that they know what we are saying a all times. ( They have radios and are monitoring our transmissions) It is entirely possible that the dorm monitor may have a friend who may be the subject of our incident and it would not be appropriate to use plain english and allow everyone on campus to know what we are doing.
                                Jeff my hobby is ;istening to the "police" scanner. For some of us part of the hobby is decoding the codes. If people have radios & are monitoring you don't be surprised if they also know your codes. Now-a-days with the internet it does not take long for information to be exchanged. A few years ago when the Montreal Police changed it's codes most of us in the hobby knew them before the Officers!
                                I enforce rules and regulations, not laws.
                                Security Officers. The 1st First Responders.

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