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  • I see "Guards Behaving Badly" thread is doing well, now for Employers Behaving Badly!

    My chief grips:


    1)Employers that hire way too many guards because they want a bunch of "hungry" guards begging for hours.

    2)Employers that take your offer of being "flexible" to mean a different set of shifts every week, even when the posts are constant.

    3)Employers that think showing up at the office to drop off keys or paperwork shouldn't be paid time/mileage.

    4)Employers that think two 4 hour shifts will "work for you".

    5)Employers that make you look dumb by not keeping track of clients keys/schedules, or letting you know who is who at client site.

    6)Employers that have lame payroll with no one person really in charge, so the odd shifts and extra hours become a chore to get paid for.

    7)Employers that blatantly lie to clients, putting you in position of either going along with lies or 'turning on' your employer(and job).

  • #2
    Employers who get there entire fleet of patrol vehicles repoed overmight, and then flee.the country with 2+ weeks of payroll and disconnect their.phone. and the ones who receive a false complaint about you and suspend you while they "investigate" and repeatedly call you a liar, only to.have the complaint proven false and dont.apologize or compensate you fpr time suspended.
    Sergeant Phil Esterhaus: "Hey, let's be careful out there.."

    THE VIEWS EXPRESSED ON THIS WEBSITE/BLOG ARE MINE ALONE AND DO NOT NECESSARILY REFLECT THE VIEWS OF MY EMPLOYER.

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    • #3
      Ones that put you on a post for 12 hours and no means of relieving yourself.

      Ones that make you work over time at regular rates.

      Ones that move you around like a rover...but pay you whatever the rate is for a guard on the post you are assigned.

      Ones that do not provide a means of calling for help on a post out in the middle of no where over night (before everyone had cellphones.

      Ones that have a training officer on your first night on the job...that is on acid, and stole the site keys.

      Ones that tell you to park in a specific location...get you cited and will not take care of the ticket.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by TOII View Post
        Ones that put you on a post for 12 hours and no means of relieving yourself.




        Ones that do not provide a means of calling for help on a post out in the middle of no where over night (before everyone had cellphones.
        .
        Oh yes. Peeing behind a building with no toilet facilties
        Even with a cell phone, you cannot contact the Field Supervisor
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        • #5
          I think everyone over the age of 19 who has ever had a job has had bad employers lol.

          -My 1st job as a teenager I worked at a retail type store (won't mention the name, but it rhymes with "J-Mart" ). My boss was the brother of my godfather and promised to give me a ride home everynight. And many nights I had to wait for that ride after closing while my boss would screw some female employee in the stock room....

          -A security company I worked for was run by some real...interesting folks. Hire people for a Federal Government contract (which they are supposed to be on full time making 14 bucks an hour) then tell them "ok, you will work 3 days a week on the federal contract, and 2 days a week on one of our apartment complex contracts, because we are short handed". The apartment complex gigs paid 8 an hour......

          -I worked for a Sheriff's Office as a detention officer. They put me at support services bureau watching trustees. The truck drivers and bus drivers would do all food and people transport to and from the jails, we'd guard the inmates....

          ....Till an up and coming "Captain" decided it was a great idea to get rid of all the drivers and make the detention officers get CDL licenses so we could do double duty as drivers and guards.....with no change in our job descriptions and no additional pay. I quit to go to the Academy, kind of wish i didn't, later heard some guys filed a labor law lawsuit and the county settled with all the guys who went ahead and got their CDLs... Damn the luck lol.

          -The one in my mind that takes the cake is working for a hospital police department where a particular Sgt didn't like a particular officer. The officer was great, even got a commendation from the city for helping a city officer catch a guy who had just robbed a fast food joint (and written up by the Sgt. for involving himself in something that didn't invole the hospital....). The Sgt. put so much "bad paper" on the guy he ended up getting fired. Well, he got a lawyer and turned over everything he'd documented about the Sgt. and Other supervisors (document document document should be tattoo'd on every workers backside lol).

          Not only did he get reinstated, the Sgt. in question gets demoted then eventually booted from the department and a lieutenant and deputy chief also end up getting demoted. Hospital Authority ends up settling with the Officer for an undisclosed amount, but it ends up being more than enough for the guy to retire early.

          After that last episode I was all like "damn, why can't I tck some boss off like that?" lol.
          Last edited by Black Caesar; 04-25-2012, 11:39 AM.
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          • #6
            This could go in the bad guards or bad employers file; I worked on one site where one of the guards had severe urinary incontinence issues.

            Every chair he sat in, he pissed in. every time he went out on patrol he pissed in the seat. The guard office, as well as the patrol vehicle, reeked of piss.

            Every guard on that site begged the office to dismiss the guard but they wouldn’t do it because they were afraid he’d sue for wrongful termination.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by copelandamuffy View Post
              Oh yes. Peeing behind a building with no toilet facilties
              Even with a cell phone, you cannot contact the Field Supervisor
              That is also assuming that peeing is all you needed to do... Imagine a post with no lighting to speak of in a parking lot for 12 hours overnight, making some 4.00 dollars and hour and having no post orders. Oh yeah and the year that I worked there I saw the supervisor 2x. Hard to stay awake when it is dark, cold and have nothing to do for 12 hours

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              • #8
                Originally posted by TOII View Post
                That is also assuming that peeing is all you needed to do... Imagine a post with no lighting to speak of in a parking lot for 12 hours overnight, making some 4.00 dollars and hour and having no post orders. Oh yeah and the year that I worked there I saw the supervisor 2x. Hard to stay awake when it is dark, cold and have nothing to do for 12 hours
                This is why I always carried a roll of TP in the trunk of my car. I still do.
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                • #9
                  We have kicked this subject around, and around.

                  99% of the Nation wide Contract Security businesses do this
                  They have branch offices from Boston to Dallas, to Pittsburg to Phoenix
                  We know who they are.


                  No PERSONAL day off

                  No sick days.

                  No Bereavement Day

                  No pay for Jury Duty. Although Many States, require employers to compensate the employees to pay for days serving as Juror. But these companies can be sneaky. Jury duty on Thursday. Not a problem . They shift your schedule to weekends

                  Most only have limited Paid Holiday, and they are Federal Holidays, and you have to work that day to be paid for the holiday

                  Pay is tuff. Check Craig’s list for Security Jobs from Boston to Phoenix. Chump Change
                  And yes indeed they do have their share of chumps

                  Oh yes there is no doubt you can make it to the Stars. But at a cost. A few weeks ago the
                  Field Supervisor/ Road Supervisor stopped by the gatehouse in the evening. Not just my account he works with, but probably 15-20 other accounts South of Boston. Betcha his phone rang “4” times in the 15 minutes he visited with me. Book offs, No shows, etc.
                  After the 2nd call the phone I would have been tossed in the river.

                  I went for a ride with our Branch/District Manager one day. Phone call after Phone call
                  I am too old and too ugly to take on that job. What’s they say? Stress is a killer
                  I want to be around to take my Grand Daughter to the Ocean and make sand castles

                  That is my beef against employers And as mentioned, I have worked at sites at where the side of the building is your bathroom, or you sit in your car all night and the temperature is 5 above zero.
                  Last edited by copelandamuffy; 04-25-2012, 04:02 PM.
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                  • #10
                    I was guarding over 2 million in platinum that was inside some machine in

                    a high tech office and was supposed to call in every hour.

                    I dozed off and 4 hours later patrol came by to do a check.

                    I could have been dead and thieves 1/2 to Brazil by the time patrol stopped by. Of course nothing was mentioned to client.

                    Being as patrol didn't know what to look for regarding the platinum and the machine, I wonder what would have happened if they hadn't found me. My guess is they would assume I was "on break" and come back in four hours.


                    I carry "handi wipes" and gallon milk jug for use as "J-bottle" in car. The jug came in handy when I was required to be 'on site' in parking lot and the place also had CCTV ALL over.

                    Personally, I think any post without bathroom facilities should be Fed Required overtime after 2 or 4 hours.



                    Another time I got really pissed at any employer is when they let all regular long term guards schedule Cinco de Mayo weekend off in a apt/condo where that was the year's main "trouble-time" and where the client was already complaining about the guard company(mainly due to frustration of losing housing value), but they scheduled me....and some of the lamest dumbest laziest replacements you could imagine....ALL WEEKEND LONG.
                    Last edited by Squid; 04-25-2012, 05:41 PM.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by copelandamuffy View Post
                      We have kicked this subject around, and around.

                      99% of the Nation wide Contract Security businesses do this
                      They have branch offices from Boston to Dallas, to Pittsburg to Phoenix
                      We know who they are.


                      No PERSONAL day off

                      No sick days.

                      No Bereavement Day

                      No pay for Jury Duty. Although Many States, require employers to compensate the employees to pay for days serving as Juror. But these companies can be sneaky. Jury duty on Thursday. Not a problem . They shift your schedule to weekends

                      Most only have limited Paid Holiday, and they are Federal Holidays, and you have to work that day to be paid for the holiday

                      Pay is tuff. Check Craig’s list for Security Jobs from Boston to Phoenix. Chump Change
                      And yes indeed they do have their share of chumps

                      Oh yes there is no doubt you can make it to the Stars. But at a cost. A few weeks ago the
                      Field Supervisor/ Road Supervisor stopped by the gatehouse in the evening. Not just my account he works with, but probably 15-20 other accounts South of Boston. Betcha his phone rang “4” times in the 15 minutes he visited with me. Book offs, No shows, etc.
                      After the 2nd call the phone I would have been tossed in the river.

                      I went for a ride with our Branch/District Manager one day. Phone call after Phone call
                      I am too old and too ugly to take on that job. What’s they say? Stress is a killer
                      I want to be around to take my Grand Daughter to the Ocean and make sand castles

                      That is my beef against employers And as mentioned, I have worked at sites at where the side of the building is your bathroom, or you sit in your car all night and the temperature is 5 above zero.
                      cope, was the field superbisor andre or damon?

                      'Harry' from my post in guards behaving badly, use to.get the payroll at the end.of the night and sign.for it and distribute it to the staff. I flipped out at the owner.for.recieving 9,10$ a hour for tge.past 2 years and.told them i was leaving. The look on their face when they told.me they gave harry enough to pay us 12/hour each will never leave my mind.
                      Sergeant Phil Esterhaus: "Hey, let's be careful out there.."

                      THE VIEWS EXPRESSED ON THIS WEBSITE/BLOG ARE MINE ALONE AND DO NOT NECESSARILY REFLECT THE VIEWS OF MY EMPLOYER.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by zm88 View Post
                        cope, was the field superbisor andre or damon?

                        .
                        I PM whom this is. Thanks !!
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Curtis Baillie View Post
                          This is why I always carried a roll of TP in the trunk of my car. I still do.

                          TP clean wipes,water and other assorted necessities, Inc. no doze.

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                          • #14
                            Paycheck roulette

                            Worked for one company where pay day was a mad scramble to cash your check before the money ran out - in the last three months they were in business if you weren't in the first 2/3s of the guards paid, your check was worthless until they put more money in the account, whenever that was.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Squid View Post
                              a high tech office and was supposed to call in every hour.

                              I dozed off and 4 hours later patrol came by to do a check.

                              I could have been dead and thieves 1/2 to Brazil by the time patrol stopped by. Of course nothing was mentioned to client.

                              Being as patrol didn't know what to look for regarding the platinum and the machine, I wonder what would have happened if they hadn't found me. My guess is they would assume I was "on break" and come back in four hours.
                              Are you seriously complaining that you fell asleep and your employer caught you?
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