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  • #16
    Originally posted by N. A. Corbier View Post
    Supposedly, the government violates the 4th amendment when they demand this. Tampa Stadium is government funded.
    I'm not sure how this is relevant. Even if TS were *entirely* government-owned, for instance, how would the situation differ from courthouses and other government buildings, where people are definitely subject both to wanding/metal detection and, if the officers reasonably believe it's necessary, to patdowns as well, all being done as a condition for entry.
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    • #17
      If this ruling holds up, then I think the next best thing would be metal detectors, which accomplish the same purpose as pat downs, but are not nearly as invasive.

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      • #18
        A lot of things will show up on a pat down that get missed by metal detectors because, well, they aren't metal. A nylon tent stake, for example.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Andy Taylor View Post
          A lot of things will show up on a pat down that get missed by metal detectors because, well, they aren't metal. A nylon tent stake, for example.
          Airport detectors seem to pick up any type of plastic as well when turned up real high. Due to the quality and support of steel toe boots now, I can just point down to my toes in a courthouse, and they wand and wave me on. Airport security however seem to enjoy making everyone take their shoes off, which is no easy task for laced up steel toe boots. Sometimes, I think just the plastic laces on shoe strings set off airport detectors.

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          • #20
            They are looking for explosives in the shoes, not metal. Or I should say in addition to metal items such as knives, guns, etc.
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            • #21
              Er guys, a higher court just ruled that pat downs are NOT unconstitutional.

              The Tampa Case

              A Similar more recent case in Seattle

              The Seattle case is of course in a differant federal district, but the ruling was just about the same. In the Tampa case it just means the lower court gets to do it all over again....
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