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  • Avenger2616
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    Originally posted by Drake Darkwood View Post
    Every time I look for books and references on executive protection I get Body guard'n. What I'm looking for is more of a systems approach what the firms security department do when threats are made. How the facilities and public data auditing can be improved to prevent and entangle attempts at intimidation, hate crimes, and more organized nastyness.
    Try "The Gift of Fear" by DeBecker- he makes some good points in there including a tool for evaluating threats...

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  • ESI AGENT
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    Check out the book written by Gavin de Becker called the Gift of fear. You could also check out info on youtube. Its one of the best books I've read on diverse problems in protectiton, we got a book that is similar from ESI program in EP.

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  • HC_Security
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    Originally posted by Condo Guard View Post
    You are correct. I'm a bit rusty on the nomenclature (I haven't dealt with an EP situation in years). I guess when I think of executive protection I'm like most people and think of the typical Hollywood guy wearing sunglasses and an earpiece, physically protecting a VIP.
    The guys I dealt with were more like security consultants or planners as you mentioned - which was cool, because our security always improved after they came through. (Sort of a free security survey - well worth the hassle of putting up with whatever celebrity was visiting.) It just amazes me what lengths people will go to to try to get to a famous person - one they love or hate...
    We covered some of this during the Master's program I was involved in. I've been in communication over the past year and a half with active EP Specialists. It's nice to see changes in the field from the typical overweight bodyguards with no training to the current approach of hiring people on a team who are more capable of blending in and being much more discrete. A new trend is building with the addition of women in the industry. It's always nice to see positive changes like this in an indusutry that typically gets such a bad rap. Team members can include the Advance Team, Drivers, Snipers, Intelligence... just depends on what the Principal needs.

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  • Condo Guard
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    You are correct. I'm a bit rusty on the nomenclature (I haven't dealt with an EP situation in years). I guess when I think of executive protection I'm like most people and think of the typical Hollywood guy wearing sunglasses and an earpiece, physically protecting a VIP.
    The guys I dealt with were more like security consultants or planners as you mentioned - which was cool, because our security always improved after they came through. (Sort of a free security survey - well worth the hassle of putting up with whatever celebrity was visiting.) It just amazes me what lengths people will go to to try to get to a famous person - one they love or hate...

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  • HC_Security
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    Originally posted by Condo Guard View Post
    Try "threat management" or "risk managment" (although the latter is a broad term and you'll get anything from disaster preparedness to insurance rate formulas).

    "Executive protection" as a term should encompass more than just bodyguards. There is what we used to refer to as the "advance team," which were the personal protection guys who coordinated with the local police and the facility security department prior to the VIP arriving. Some of what they did was reviewing security procedures, setting up special access control and checking for vulnerabilities. Much of that type of information (procedures and precautions) would not be available to the public for obvious reasons.
    An "advance" is still part of a bodyguarding team though. It's information that is gathered and then communicated back to the principal EPS on the team to be examined and translated into a plan.

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  • Nauticus
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    We could even get into searching terms like "target hardening".

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  • Condo Guard
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    Try "threat management" or "risk managment" (although the latter is a broad term and you'll get anything from disaster preparedness to insurance rate formulas).

    "Executive protection" as a term should encompass more than just bodyguards. There is what we used to refer to as the "advance team," which were the personal protection guys who coordinated with the local police and the facility security department prior to the VIP arriving. Some of what they did was reviewing security procedures, setting up special access control and checking for vulnerabilities. Much of that type of information (procedures and precautions) would not be available to the public for obvious reasons.
    Last edited by Condo Guard; 10-03-2011, 06:40 AM. Reason: clarification

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  • HC_Security
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    Originally posted by Drake Darkwood View Post
    Every time I look for books and references on executive protection I get Body guard'n. What I'm looking for is more of a systems approach what the firms security department do when threats are made. How the facilities and public data auditing can be improved to prevent and entangle attempts at intimidation, hate crimes, and more organized nastyness.
    Maybe you need to use different key words in your search. Technically, "executive protection" is bodyguarding. EP Specialist/bodyguard. Maybe you should be using Corporate Security in your search instead.

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  • Drake Darkwood
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    I repeat I am not a body guard, i'm security!!

    Every time I look for books and references on executive protection I get Body guard'n. What I'm looking for is more of a systems approach what the firms security department do when threats are made. How the facilities and public data auditing can be improved to prevent and entangle attempts at intimidation, hate crimes, and more organized nastyness.

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