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  • crankloud
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    worked with police.

    I worked directly with police at Byron bay summer rock festival from 1999 to 2005. There were approx 20,000 drunk idiots there, every charge laid from drunk and disorderly to rape. 25 arrests over a 2 day period. Weapons such as machetes and small axes all concealed were found during entry searches. Three security officers assaulted and two police wounded also. Fun and games all round.

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  • Lawson
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    It sounds a lot better in the media when you protected the students of the University from an outside threat, then when you had to book one of their own. Because we all know Universities would NEVER have a student who could possibly commit a felony.

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  • Tennsix
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    Originally posted by EMTFirefighter
    Well, obviously we don't let a DWI suspect get back in his car and go. We still tow the car, but the student suspect is free to go after information has been taken for a conduct report.

    The purpose of having peace officers, according to the college is to protect the college's staff, students and interests from outsiders (read: city scumbags).

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  • Tennsix
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    Originally posted by Michael Ledgerwood
    Its funny how this was supposed to be a thread on casino security and what type of security is most like law enforcement. 9 pages later were ranting and raving on how the police need to respect us more.
    In my state, casino security is police work. The state police do that job.

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  • N. A. Corbier
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    Originally posted by Michael Ledgerwood
    Its funny how this was supposed to be a thread on casino security and what type of security is most like law enforcement. 9 pages later were ranting and raving on how the police need to respect us more.
    We've never really been much for "on topic" here...

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  • Michael Ledgerwood
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    Its funny how this was supposed to be a thread on casino security and what type of security is most like law enforcement. 9 pages later were ranting and raving on how the police need to respect us more.

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    You know, only a complete a$$hole would cite a Security Guard for wearing a uniform that they didn't like.

    Its idiotic stupidity like that that turns my stomach and has left me with such a bad taste in my mouth for Locals.
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    You're welcome, Talon.

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  • talon
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    Jesus F'n Christ...

    "I used to cite any and all security guards I found wearing a dark blue uniform and/or had an oval badge. In the LAPD only traffic cops wear shoulder patches, so I did not care what type of patches they wore as long as they did not say police. I felt kind of bad about giving the individual guard a citation since the guard does not have any say in what uniforms the company issues, but then I got over it. I used to love seeing the security guard's expression when one of them would call me to solve a problem but the guard was the one who ended up with a citation for looking too much like me. At least I was always nice about it and never gave the guard the citation in front of others."


    You know, only a complete a$$hole would cite a Security Guard for wearing a uniform that they didn't like.

    Its idiotic stupidity like that that turns my stomach and has left me with such a bad taste in my mouth for Locals.

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  • 1stWatch
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    Originally posted by Tennsix
    It doesn't seem to be that way in my area. I think most police officers (all area PD's) respect security officers. We seem to have a good working relationship with most security companies. My PD has a security divison and we all work together very well. We have roll call together, got to meal break, etc.
    My goodness, that's how it should be. That sounds wonderful.

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  • 1stWatch
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    Social prejudice is very prolific isn't it?

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  • 1stWatch
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    Yeah, I heard stories about Dallas trying to arrest security guards for that kind of crap. Fortunately, the state police has spoken up about the issue and clarified that since the uniform is registered with the state bureau, it is an official uniform and there is not a thing they can do about it, as long as the state seal, state flag, or the word "police" or the name of any law enforcement agency is not displayed on it. Still, the pissing match continues.

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  • N. A. Corbier
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    Wonderful. Wrote a long post, and the website gave a timeout error when I submitted it. I lost 2 pages of text.

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  • N. A. Corbier
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    Originally posted by histfan71
    I had no problem whatsoever when I was a cop helping a security guard when the guard really needed my help. But I'd get really annoyed if a security guard called me for some crap that he could either have handled himself or the guard caused the problem in the first place.

    An example is when a security guard at an office building called the police to have a car towed out of the office building's parking lot. I was the lucky guy working a report car that day so I got the handle. A visitor parked in some executive's reserved parking space and the executive told the guard to have the visitor's car towed. Without making any effort to find the visitor, which wasn't difficult since the visitor signed in the visitor log with his name and the person he was there to see, and ask the visitor to move his car the guard just called the cops. The visitor's car was parked in a private parking lot, not a public roadway, so I could not have towed the car even if I wanted to. However; the security guard, acting as an agent of the property owner, could have had the car towed away. The security guard did not know he could have the car towed, he thought the cops had to do it. Not only that, it probably would not have been necessary to tow the car if the guard had sought out the visitor and told him to move his car. The thought of finding the visitor never crossed this guard's mind. I went and found the visitor (like I said it was not difficult) and told him to move his car to another space not marked "Reserved" or it would be towed. The visitor couldn't move fast enough. Problem solved, but it didn't need to be solved by me.
    Of course not. Consequently, many folks simply aren't trained in that. Especially clients. I was assigned to a property for a night, and was handed the post orders. It was unarmed, and I was ordered to work it armed and "put the fear of God into them."

    This generally means that the guys they have out there aren't working, and it needed some proactive enforcement and prevention.

    There was nothing to indicate that there was a towing procedure. So, I contacted the resident manager and asked. He advised me that they don't tow, because the Sheriff's Office dosen't tow on private property.

    I stayed after for an hour with the management, after putting those evil evil tickets on everything that needed to be towed out, finding a towing company that would do FSS 715 (Private Impound) tows. When I returned that night for another 12, the signs were up and I was ready to tow.

    We towed BOATS. We towed cars, trucks, vans, motorcycles, we towed everything. After that, people started registering their cars, and the "homeowner's assocation" hated me because they were telling the members that you don't have to pay for parking permits - security never tows.

    On the inverse, I rather dislike a police officer publically telling my trespass suspect that I don't have any authority to remove that person, and "only the police can tell you to leave." Her Corporal rewired her head to be in conformity with Florida Statute after the Corporal found out. If I call you out to my site to witness a trespass warning, its because your agency won't permit us to use our own forms and photographic evidence of the warning, not because "only the police can trespass people."

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    Originally posted by talon
    What really kills me is when the locals complain about responding to your location, they forget that even though the business hired extra eyes and ears that they are still paid by that same property owner through taxes, and it's their "JOB". If you don't like it... quit!!! But don't whine about it.
    I had no problem whatsoever when I was a cop helping a security guard when the guard really needed my help. But I'd get really annoyed if a security guard called me for some crap that he could either have handled himself or the guard caused the problem in the first place.

    An example is when a security guard at an office building called the police to have a car towed out of the office building's parking lot. I was the lucky guy working a report car that day so I got the handle. A visitor parked in some executive's reserved parking space and the executive told the guard to have the visitor's car towed. Without making any effort to find the visitor, which wasn't difficult since the visitor signed in the visitor log with his name and the person he was there to see, and ask the visitor to move his car the guard just called the cops. The visitor's car was parked in a private parking lot, not a public roadway, so I could not have towed the car even if I wanted to. However; the security guard, acting as an agent of the property owner, could have had the car towed away. The security guard did not know he could have the car towed, he thought the cops had to do it. Not only that, it probably would not have been necessary to tow the car if the guard had sought out the visitor and told him to move his car. The thought of finding the visitor never crossed this guard's mind. I went and found the visitor (like I said it was not difficult) and told him to move his car to another space not marked "Reserved" or it would be towed. The visitor couldn't move fast enough. Problem solved, but it didn't need to be solved by me.

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