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    anyone here work casino security?? that to me would be the closest security could get to being like police work

  • #2
    Originally posted by mallpopo
    anyone here work casino security?? that to me would be the closest security could get to being like police work
    Are you sure? Ive seen a few sites where security is charged with vehicle patrol, bike patrol, foot patrol, contacting residents and businesses, committing traffic enforcement on their site, being the primary responder to law violations on their site, etc...
    "Alright guys listen up, ya'll have probably heard this before, Jackson vs. Securiplex corporation; I am a private security officer, I have no State or governmental authority. I stand as an ordinary citizen. I have no right to; detain, interrogate or otherwise interfere with your personal property-... basically all that means is I'm a cop."-Officer Ernie
    "The Curve" 1998

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    • #3
      Yes I am sure

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      • #4
        Originally posted by mallpopo
        anyone here work casino security?? that to me would be the closest security could get to being like police work
        Hotels are like mini cities!

        Neil
        I enforce rules and regulations, not laws.
        Security Officers. The 1st First Responders.

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        • #5
          unless you are already college/university campus police

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          • #6
            Originally posted by mallpopo
            unless you are already college/university campus police
            And that entails a lot more than most people would ever imagine...
            I believe I speak for everyone here sir, when I say, to Hell with our orders.
            -Lieutenant Commander Data
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            • #7
              Originally posted by EMTFirefighter
              I don't really agree with that. I'm a peace officer at a college and I find my job to be pretty easy for the most part.
              I suppose it varies with different schools. I am a police officer at a university with +100K. My campus has about 45K and we answer calls off-campus as well. I used to work for a city and county PD and we do all the same stuff at the university PD-search warrants, arrest warrants, misdemeanor and felony arrests, traffic stops, etc.
              I believe I speak for everyone here sir, when I say, to Hell with our orders.
              -Lieutenant Commander Data
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              • #8
                Closest job to actual law enforcement is working proprietary security, not contract security like most hotels have. Having known several officers who worked security for casinos in Las Vegas, while the job can be fun and exciting they are in no way like law enforcement. From what I hear Nevada restricts security but I can be wrong on that. Heres some advice, you want to drive around and act like a cop then go to work for a police department, if you want a little more excitement then go to work at a college or airport or military base.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by EMTFirefighter
                  Well, there's the difference. My campus has only about 10K students. We also answer calls off campus, make arrests, traffic stops, etc. The only thing you do that we don't is arrest on arrest or bench warrants and carry a firearm.
                  In NY, how is a peace officer different from a police officer? In Indiana, a police officer and peace officer are one in the same. Some people think we are security and are baffled when they learn we are in the drugs task force, have SWAT officers, and FBI academy grads, and run a police academy. That is why I said a lot of people have no idea what all we do. They think we are high priced baby sitters.
                  Last edited by Tennsix; 03-24-2006, 08:16 PM.
                  I believe I speak for everyone here sir, when I say, to Hell with our orders.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Tennsix
                    In NY, how is a peace officer different from a police officer? In Indiana, a police officer and peace officer are one in the same. Some people think we are security and are baffled when they learn we are in the drugs task force, have SWAT officers, and FBI academy grads, and run a police academy. That is why I said a lot of people have no idea what all we do. They think we are high priced baby sitters.
                    Some people cannot read a badge.
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                    "Every time I see another crazy Florida post, I'm glad I don't work there." ~ Minneapolis Security on Florida Security Law

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by N. A. Corbier
                      Some people cannot read a badge.
                      Hell, a lot of the poeple we (all of us here) deal with can't read at all!
                      I believe I speak for everyone here sir, when I say, to Hell with our orders.
                      -Lieutenant Commander Data
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by N. A. Corbier
                        Some people cannot read a badge.
                        A badge means nothing. There are plenty of wanna-be security guards out there who can buy a very police-looking badge from unscrupulous badge manufactures (Blackington comes to mind) that can fool the average citizen. Also, police badges have been stolen or have otherwise fallen into the hands of the wrong people. One of the Hillside Stranglers here in LA, I think it was Kenneth Bianchi, lured his victims in by flashing a perfectly authentic California Highway Patrol badge he bought at a swap meet. I have no idea how the CHP badge ended up at the swap meet, but was probably stolen.

                        It is a police ID card that carries the name of your agency, your rank, your serial number, your photo and the signature of the chief of police (or county sheriff as the case may be) that makes you a police officer.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by histfan71
                          A badge means nothing. There are plenty of wanna-be security guards out there who can buy a very police-looking badge from unscrupulous badge manufactures (Blackington comes to mind) that can fool the average citizen.


                          Blackington is unscrupulous???? (that's a big word for this old Marine) I know of a few companies and at least two LEO Agencies that use Blackington!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by histfan71
                            A badge means nothing. There are plenty of wanna-be security guards out there who can buy a very police-looking badge from unscrupulous badge manufactures (Blackington comes to mind) that can fool the average citizen. Also, police badges have been stolen or have otherwise fallen into the hands of the wrong people. One of the Hillside Stranglers here in LA, I think it was Kenneth Bianchi, lured his victims in by flashing a perfectly authentic California Highway Patrol badge he bought at a swap meet. I have no idea how the CHP badge ended up at the swap meet, but was probably stolen.

                            It is a police ID card that carries the name of your agency, your rank, your serial number, your photo and the signature of the chief of police (or county sheriff as the case may be) that makes you a police officer.
                            You are correct but in reality, people respond to a badge. The few times I have "badged" someone with my police ID, they questioned it and asked to see my badge.
                            I believe I speak for everyone here sir, when I say, to Hell with our orders.
                            -Lieutenant Commander Data
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by GCMC Security


                              Blackington is unscrupulous???? (that's a big word for this old Marine) I know of a few companies and at least two LEO Agencies that use Blackington!
                              Blackington will make any type of badge with any type of lettering on it for anybody. Here in California it is illegal for ANY security badge or patch (not just contract security but in-house as well) to have the state seal. There are also word restrictions such as deputy, constable, peace officer, ranger, police officer, United States, Task Force, Law Enforcement, Detective, Investigator, Special Agent, etc.

                              I have known several contract security companies to have Blackington make their company badges with the California state seal and words such as "Private Law Enforcement" and "Special Officer" because scrupulous badge companies such as Sun Badge Company and Entenmann-Rovin wouldn't touch their business with a ten-foot-pole.

                              While oval badges are not illegal per say here, Sun and Entenmann will not make badges that resemble those of local law enforcement, which they define to include oval badges, for private security. They only two shapes they will make for security are seven-point stars and the eagle-topped tear-drop shaped badges, much like Tennsix's avatar.

                              In these parts about 7-8 years ago, there was a PI who called his business "Office of Special Investigations", and I think he was based in Riverside County. His badges were made by Blackington and they were exact reproductions of the badges carried by Special Agent's of the Air Force's Office of Special Investigations, except the rank read "Agent" or something similar rather than "Special Agent". When this guy got busted for impersonation and some other charges the local newspaper showed pictures of his badges, that's how I know the story.

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