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  • Call me crazy, but I have an idea....

    We have spent considerable time talking about the pros and cons (mostly cons) of the soft blazer uniform in security. Do you think I have any chance of convincing the powers that be on the state level that it is counterproductive to where blazer uniforms? In order for people to recognize you as a s/o, one has to get close enough to them that they can read the embroidered patch on your blazer that identifies you as security. That means that when I ask trespassers to leave, I am closer than I want to be to the subjects in order for them to know that I am with security. On the other hand, the general public knows what kind of uniform the traditional security guard wears and has no difficulty identifying it.

    What do you think? Forget it or pursue it?
    Security: Freedom from fear; danger; safe; a feeling of well-being. (Webster's)

  • #2
    Go for it!

    Are there others thinking the same as you?
    If so band together and petition.
    The worst that could happen is "Shutup and wear the blazer!".

    If you must wear the blazer why not go with the clip badge that you can slide onto the jacket pocket or someplace visible to be more readily IDd at a safer distance?

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    • #3
      If I had to wear a blazer on the job again, I would probably be more concerned about its appearance and upkeep than I did before when I wore it. I remember letting the white dress shirt underneath get wrinkled and getting lint on the pants and blazer. This was how just about everybody working in the company looked. I would be wearing wrinkle-free suits just like I do now with the hard uniform and would polish up the shoes to shine. People wouldn't mistake me for police, but maybe for a preacher.
      "We appreciate all the hard work you've done, the dedicated hours you have worked, and the lives you have saved. However, since this is your third time being late to work, we are terminating your employment here."

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      • #4
        Originally posted by ACP01
        Are there others thinking the same as you?
        If so band together and petition.
        The worst that could happen is "Shutup and wear the blazer!".

        If you must wear the blazer why not go with the clip badge that you can slide onto the jacket pocket or someplace visible to be more readily IDd at a safer distance?
        Not permitted by the company or client.
        Security: Freedom from fear; danger; safe; a feeling of well-being. (Webster's)

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        • #5
          Originally posted by 1stWatch
          If I had to wear a blazer on the job again, I would probably be more concerned about its appearance and upkeep than I did before when I wore it. I remember letting the white dress shirt underneath get wrinkled and getting lint on the pants and blazer.....
          That about describes it with most guards.
          Security: Freedom from fear; danger; safe; a feeling of well-being. (Webster's)

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          • #6
            I have worn the hard security uniform for many years, and recently switched to the soft security uniform (blazer jacket). In a way, I believe that if someone were to go into a building and do ill deeds, would bust a gut laughing, at some joker wearing a jacket telling him what to do. But it is up to the client to dictate what (their) security should wear. If you work in a high-profile business or entertainment complex, most guests, visitors, etc., don't want to think the place is like a Russian Gulag. It should present a more friendly, hospitable atmosphere. It all boils down to depending on what kind of security are you doing. If you wear a blazer, call the PD, let them do all the intimidation.
            "If you run, you'll only go to jail tired."

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            • #7
              Originally posted by wisconsinite
              .... If you wear a blazer, call the PD, let them do all the intimidation.
              Their not interested in trespassing calls. That's my job.
              Security: Freedom from fear; danger; safe; a feeling of well-being. (Webster's)

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              • #8
                Mr. Security
                Their not interested in trespassing calls....

                OK, so, if the local yokals are uninterested in responding to tresspassing, i'lljust use the perp's head as a battering ram, on his way THROUGH the door.
                "If you run, you'll only go to jail tired."

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by wisconsinite
                  Mr. Security
                  Their not interested in trespassing calls....

                  OK, so, if the local yokals are uninterested in responding to tresspassing, i'lljust use the perp's head as a battering ram, on his way THROUGH the door.
                  It's trespassing on the property, not in the buildings. I get you drift though.
                  Security: Freedom from fear; danger; safe; a feeling of well-being. (Webster's)

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Mr. Security
                    Not permitted by the company or client.
                    Too bad. All my work is plain clothes from casual to formal wear and i use the badgeholder over the pocket when I need IDd. It works very well plus both the clients and PD go for it.

                    Maybe you could show them how it is easier for everyone to tell you're security in low-light situations with the badge displayed.

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                    • #11
                      I have worked in a blazer and I dont know what all the complaints are. If you wear it professionally and keep a good image about yourself you will have no problems. I had done hundreds of contacts while wearing that blazer and none of them went sour, a lot of people seemed to think I was some type of Secret Service official or something. You just need to know how to work what you got and you shouldnt have a problem.
                      "Alright guys listen up, ya'll have probably heard this before, Jackson vs. Securiplex corporation; I am a private security officer, I have no State or governmental authority. I stand as an ordinary citizen. I have no right to; detain, interrogate or otherwise interfere with your personal property-... basically all that means is I'm a cop."-Officer Ernie
                      "The Curve" 1998

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by ACP01
                        Too bad. All my work is plain clothes from casual to formal wear and i use the badgeholder over the pocket when I need IDd. It works very well plus both the clients and PD go for it.

                        Maybe you could show them how it is easier for everyone to tell you're security in low-light situations with the badge displayed.
                        I like the idea and I have done that at other sites. It does work great.
                        Security: Freedom from fear; danger; safe; a feeling of well-being. (Webster's)

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Wackenhut Lawson
                          I have worked in a blazer and I dont know what all the complaints are. If you wear it professionally and keep a good image about yourself you will have no problems. I had done hundreds of contacts while wearing that blazer and none of them went sour, a lot of people seemed to think I was some type of Secret Service official or something. You just need to know how to work what you got and you shouldnt have a problem.
                          If you read the posts regarding uniforms located on this forum, you will see that many of us have had problems with the blazer look. I'm glad it works for you, but it doesn't for me.
                          Security: Freedom from fear; danger; safe; a feeling of well-being. (Webster's)

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Mr. Security
                            If you read the posts regarding uniforms located on this forum, you will see that many of us have had problems with the blazer look. I'm glad it works for you, but it doesn't for me.
                            There's also the color of uniform blazer, the person wearing it, etc.

                            Personally, I look stupid in a red blazer and black uniform pants. I was also prohibited from wearing a baseball cap because it looked stupid on me. I was one of the few people authorized to wear a smokey bear, though. Long face, tall, thin, etc.

                            I can see what Mr. Security is saying. Does your blazer have ANY identifying marks on it? Ie: <Company> Logo on the chest pocket, etc? If not, then I'm surprised they get away from it, because your NOT uniformed. You would be considered a "Private Investigator" in both WI and Florida, since your not displaying a visible uniform patch.
                            Some Kind of Commando Leader

                            "Every time I see another crazy Florida post, I'm glad I don't work there." ~ Minneapolis Security on Florida Security Law

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by N. A. Corbier
                              There's also the color of uniform blazer, the person wearing it, etc.

                              Personally, I look stupid in a red blazer and black uniform pants.
                              Amen!!

                              Originally posted by N. A. Corbier
                              I can see what Mr. Security is saying. Does your blazer have ANY identifying marks on it? Ie: <Company> Logo on the chest pocket, etc? If not, then I'm surprised they get away from it, because your NOT uniformed. You would be considered a "Private Investigator" in both WI and Florida, since your not displaying a visible uniform patch.
                              Yes, it has an embroidered patch (not an embroidered badge) that's too small to read or recognize until you get close to me. If I remove the blazer, it's almost impossible to tell I'm security.
                              Security: Freedom from fear; danger; safe; a feeling of well-being. (Webster's)

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