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    What level of ID cards do you issue or are issued?

    At my FD job we are issued both ID and PAS cards.
    The PAS (Personal Accountability System) cards are made to be cut and opened in the event of serious injury. They contain contact info, medical history etc. Both have up to date photos.

    I plan to use this type of ID when I can get it set up.

    Any other ideas?

  • #2
    Fargo or other Card Systems are infinitely better than your laser printer and a laminator.

    Spend the grand on a Fargo or Magicard or whatever system. I plan (sorry, distributors) to pick one up off ebay. You can encode them magnetically, or have RFID tag in them. Full face printing. With a Logitech Quickcam, a PC with printing software, and a Magicard printer, you have a complete DMV-style document creation station. Total cost used? About 2.5 grand, with PC. Total cost new? I've seen the printers go for about 3 grand USD, but those are super expensive.

    I'm sure some of our integrators have their preferences, and why they have them, on manufacturer and unit. I'd like to hear about them, and will post some basic criteria for a card system for my organization:

    - Full face printing on front. Optional face printing on back depending on printer cost.
    - Tamper resistant printing media (film). I don't care how its tamper resistant, ie: Holocote, holographic die (Magicard), etc. Just make the film unique.
    - Ability to print from multiple templates (Robust software to drive the printer)
    - Small Duty Use - I'd print about 1-4 cards a day, not 1000-4000 like some companies do.

    I think these are basic for any startup organization.
    Some Kind of Commando Leader

    "Every time I see another crazy Florida post, I'm glad I don't work there." ~ Minneapolis Security on Florida Security Law

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    • #3
      I have my state issued "guard card," a picture ID for the post I work at with emergency contact information attached, and - don't laugh - dog tags with my name, address, medical allergies, and a notice that I have a legal medical directive completed.
      Security: Freedom from fear; danger; safe; a feeling of well-being. (Webster's)

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Mr. Security
        I have my state issued "guard card," a picture ID for the post I work at with emergency contact information attached, and - don't laugh - dog tags with my name, address, medical allergies, and a notice that I have a legal medical directive completed.
        Hey, why not. 9 times out of 10, your standing there going, "So, who is this guy?"
        Some Kind of Commando Leader

        "Every time I see another crazy Florida post, I'm glad I don't work there." ~ Minneapolis Security on Florida Security Law

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        • #5
          I only carry my state commission card (they don't call it a "guard card" here, tg) and my driver license. Both of them have my photo and pertinent information.
          "We appreciate all the hard work you've done, the dedicated hours you have worked, and the lives you have saved. However, since this is your third time being late to work, we are terminating your employment here."

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          • #6
            Contract rules, I carry all my ID cards and cert cards in a clear ID holder on the shirt pocket:

            -Driver's License
            -WA State Armed Guard license
            -GSA Photo ID
            -DHS Photo ID (prox card as well)
            -FAA Photo ID (prox card as well)
            -OCAT cert card
            -Baton cert card

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            • #7
              Nothing specific to my department, but I have my company ID, ORD badge, JFK badge, proxy card, and my forklift certification card

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Will
                Nothing specific to my department, but I have my company ID, ORD badge, JFK badge, proxy card, and my forklift certification card
                JFK badge, IL? What is that?
                Security: Freedom from fear; danger; safe; a feeling of well-being. (Webster's)

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                • #9
                  I have my 'guard card' from the State in my wallet. The plant where I work issues those of us working contract Security a photo ID we are supposed to wear clipped to our uniform but nobody ever bothers wearing it unless we know the Coast Guard is coming to do an inspection.
                  Hospital Security Officer

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Mr. Security
                    I have my state issued "guard card," a picture ID for the post I work at with emergency contact information attached, and - don't laugh - dog tags with my name, address, medical allergies, and a notice that I have a legal medical directive completed.
                    I wear my "dog tags" everytime I fly, business or pleasure. When asked by airport screeners why they are worn, my answer is simple, they will survive when the rest of me is ash. You can see they are unnerved. When on a survey they are always with me.
                    Enjoy the day,
                    Bill

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Bill Warnock
                      I wear my "dog tags" everytime I fly, business or pleasure. When asked by airport screeners why they are worn, my answer is simple, they will survive when the rest of me is ash. You can see they are unnerved. When on a survey they are always with me.
                      Enjoy the day,
                      Bill
                      Good point about the dog tags Bill.

                      The reason I am thinking of going with an offshoot of my FD ID is that if a guard is injured the tag can be opened with medical and contact info there for EMS and ER to see. Also I think with a company card I can have other info there that would not be on a generic ID.

                      I like the swipe card idea but an EMT or Medic would not have access to a card reader in my area at point of contact.

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                      • #12
                        A medical "breakaway" card is useful. However, you have to weigh one thing: The HIPPA requirements, and the possibility that the employee may fail to disclose information on that card - fearing that you'll terminate their employment due to a medical issue they're hiding. This may generate liability on the company for providing "negligent" data.

                        These are brushed aside if the card is strictly optional.
                        Some Kind of Commando Leader

                        "Every time I see another crazy Florida post, I'm glad I don't work there." ~ Minneapolis Security on Florida Security Law

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Mr. Security
                          JFK badge, IL? What is that?
                          Company I work for has 2 buildings at JFK. Can't walk around the building without an escort if you don't have a NYPA badge. So, I got the badge. Miami and Atlanta ID's to follow shortly

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by N. A. Corbier
                            A medical "breakaway" card is useful. However, you have to weigh one thing: The HIPPA requirements, and the possibility that the employee may fail to disclose information on that card - fearing that you'll terminate their employment due to a medical issue they're hiding. This may generate liability on the company for providing "negligent" data.

                            These are brushed aside if the card is strictly optional.
                            Good point about the medical issue. As far as the HIPPA the info is on the side that is on the inside of a two sided folded card inside a sealed pouch.

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                            • #15
                              By HIPPA, I mean storing your edition of the card information, since you'd need a copy for scene management, like your engine and FF tags. That information would be privvy to HIPPA safeguards.
                              Some Kind of Commando Leader

                              "Every time I see another crazy Florida post, I'm glad I don't work there." ~ Minneapolis Security on Florida Security Law

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