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    https://youtu.be/SIhI-MBicTs

    When I'm at work I pay attention to the cops to see how they do things and see what kind of equipment they're carrying and one thing I've noticed is even in the winter you never see the cops around here wearing a coat.

    I don't like wearing a coat at work either and for the same reason the cops don't. I've been jumped at work, I've had to go hands on with people. That's really not something I want to do while I'm wearing some bulky parka.

    So this winter when it started getting cold I decided I wanted to see if I could find something that works better than my old GI issue polypros.

    One of my co-workers could not stop singing the praises of the Army's new ECWCS stuff but since pretty much everything else he said was BS I assumed this was too.

    I decided to buy one set when it started getting colder and see how they worked in comparison to my old polypros. I was really surprised there was a noticeable difference between the two.

    where I'm at right now it is currently 22 degrees the wind is 18 miles an hour from the North and the wind chill is 8 degrees. I'm wearing a set of the light weights and a set of the midweights with a black sweatshirt over the top because uniform requirements.

    Over that I have the same basic security uniform that pretty much everybody else wears. Tru spec BDU pants and the same old National Patrol uniform shirt that they issue to everybody in the world. Over that I'm wearing the same standard black security sweater and a polartec fleece beanie.

    I'm not going to tell you it's not cold but it's not uncomfortably cold. Unable to function in it I'm able to do my job and it's not so cold as to degrade my performance.

    If it really gets nasty I have one of the old original issue black ECWCS fleece jackets that they were just starting issue when I got out of the army.

    This company usually suspends outdoor foot patrols at about 10 degrees below zero and with everything on I'm good to well below that.

    if you buy an entire set (4 pieces) brand new off Amazon it'll probably run you between 80 and a hundred bucks. I personally think they're worth it but since I live in a GI town I can get them at the surplus stores for 30 bucks for an entire set.

    so if you're on a post and keeps you outside in inclement weather this is something to consider

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    how about posting links to exact gear?

    ECWCS can mean a lot, and IIRC they are on about "Gen III" on some items.

    "entire set (4 pieces)"????

    I'm in California. We don't allow weather in California. Except for State Mandated "Global Warming", sorry now "Climate Change".

    Since we don't have weather in CA, I picked up a sturdy set of insulated black overalls brand new from Walmart for $20 (MSRP $79!). Having the overalls might push me to finish one of my uniform concepts- the "untucked length" duty shirt. Basically gonna figure out right place to trim and hem a shirt so it looks OK untucked, so I could wear it over the overalls and still have legal patches, etc and otherwise appear normal and in uniform.


    I'm thinking about getting one of these "Ike Length" jackets instead of standard company issue "bomber" because:

    1) I'm in CA and we don't really have weather.

    2) Better access to duty belt and better for fighting.

    3) IMO looks much better and less bummy. People (dirtbags) would think "this must be the REAL security, better leave".

    https://www.galls.com/solar-1-duty-j...002044&PMSRCH=
    Last edited by Squid; 12-27-2018, 07:27 PM.

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    • #3
      I thought I was communicating fairly clearly. The topic of discussion was the thermal underwear layers and the video explicitly referenced the gen tree level 2 thermals. Like most people my outer clothing must be the company issued uniform although I can get away with a plain black jacket as long as I have a clearly logo'd safety vest over it so no coveralls.


      In in case Squid isn't the only one here that's a little thick here are links to YouTube videos describing exactly the clothing I'm talking about


      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Liwvr4tMJs4

      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SIhI-MBicTs&t=4s
      Last edited by Lunch Meat; 12-28-2018, 12:19 AM.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Lunch Meat View Post
        I thought I was communicating fairly clearly. The topic of discussion was the thermal underwear layers and the video explicitly referenced the gen tree level 2 thermals. Like most people my outer clothing must be the company issued uniform although I can get away with a plain black jacket as long as I have a clearly logo'd safety vest over it so no coveralls.


        In in case Squid isn't the only one here that's a little thick here are links to YouTube videos describing exactly the clothing I'm talking about


        https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Liwvr4tMJs4

        https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SIhI-MBicTs&t=4s
        "thumbholes for donning additional layers". How about some baseball pants style foot straps. I can grab a handful of long shirt when "donning additional layers", but I'm a few generations of Evolution past being able to grab long-johns with toes when putting on outer pants.

        I've got Gen II parka and zip-in fleece like this (you can get cheaper than Amazon).https://www.amazon.com/Tru-Spec-Mult...=gen+II++parka

        Seems pretty sturdy but kinda heavy and floppy. Be good for stadium in freezing rain. Fleece has slick lined arms for easy "donning additional layers" and has YUGE side handwarmer pockets big enough for a laptop (that get covered if jacket used). Only quibble is snap holding fleece to jacket on back of neck wont stay snapped.

        I hear the Gen III is much lighter, and breathable fabric, but no zip in fleece.

        I got some like this but they are too warm for CA.https://www.ebay.com/itm/US-Military...6JW:rk:13:pf:0


        My main Cold Weather issue is trying to find some cheap black gloves in XL that are warm, work with smart phone screen and are good SHOOTER GLOVES.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Squid View Post

          "thumbholes for donning additional layers". How about some baseball pants style foot straps. I can grab a handful of long shirt when "donning additional layers", but I'm a few generations of Evolution past being able to grab long-johns with toes when putting on outer pants.

          I've got Gen II parka and zip-in fleece like this (you can get cheaper than Amazon).https://www.amazon.com/Tru-Spec-Mult...=gen+II++parka

          Seems pretty sturdy but kinda heavy and floppy. Be good for stadium in freezing rain. Fleece has slick lined arms for easy "donning additional layers" and has YUGE side handwarmer pockets big enough for a laptop (that get covered if jacket used). Only quibble is snap holding fleece to jacket on back of neck wont stay snapped.

          I hear the Gen III is much lighter, and breathable fabric, but no zip in fleece.

          I got some like this but they are too warm for CA.https://www.ebay.com/itm/US-Military...6JW:rk:13f:0


          My main Cold Weather issue is trying to find some cheap black gloves in XL that are warm, work with smart phone screen and are good SHOOTER GLOVES.


          I live in a high plains desert. I won't say I never have to worry about rain but I never have to worry about it for very long.

          That said, I have a Sierra Designs packable rain jacket that I can hang on my belt should circumstances dictate that I may need it. I've had the thing for 20 years and it's never really failed to meet my needs

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          • #6


            I'm much more likely to have to manipulate my company-issued phone than a gun but as shown above, I just wear a set of black Mechanix gloves with the right index finger cut off.

            I had to think while I was out walking my last rounds I remember it rained here twice this summer I just don't remember what month. Both times though we had a flood and I mean there was six inches of water outside my car and the creek across the street was bank full. it was gone an hour later though.

            the current temperature where I'm at is 13 degrees. The wind chill is 0 and the wind is moderate at 13 miles an hour from the north. The humidity is 50%.

            I'm wearing the same uniform I normally wear with a set of top and bottom light weights and top and bottom mid weights which by the way aren't even bulky enough to be noticeable. And again I'm fine no need for a coat.

            to be honest I don't know how this stuff would work in wet cold but around here people would ask you "What is this rain that you speak of?"
            Last edited by Lunch Meat; 12-28-2018, 04:55 AM.

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            • #7
              Currently -12F and I finally need my coat.

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