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Originally posted by Investigation. Tell me who they are and maybe I can address it with the powers at be.
When I worked there (bout 3, almost 4 years ago) I think I remember him wearing a seal on his badge. Im not certain, but I think the Lieutenants there wore seals on their badges too.
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If you look at the top left of that page I posted, theres a badge w/ a state seal. Its the same design my LT there wore."Alright guys listen up, ya'll have probably heard this before, Jackson vs. Securiplex corporation; I am a private security officer, I have no State or governmental authority. I stand as an ordinary citizen. I have no right to; detain, interrogate or otherwise interfere with your personal property-... basically all that means is I'm a cop."-Officer Ernie
"The Curve" 1998
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Originally posted by Mr. SecurityPlease.....let it be. There are more important problems to deal with. If you want to enforce the law, then become a police officer and fight violent crime.
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Originally posted by InvestigationHow constructive of you to step in and offer that piece of valuable advice. Unless you know my experience and training, don’t come at me with some nonsense statement like that.Security: Freedom from fear; danger; safe; a feeling of well-being. (Webster's)
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Originally posted by InvestigationHow constructive of you to step in and offer that piece of valuable advice. Unless you know my experience and training, don’t come at me with some nonsense statement like that.
In security we wear what the company issues us.
As a LEO, I wore what was prescribed by my department.
When working part-time for a security company, my issued badge looked too much like a police badge and I commented to my company supervisor. I was told "The Company" was formed prior to the establishment of any established law enforcement agency, save the US Marshals Service and were exempt from the badge requirement.
I am sure that the average LEO will not make a specific guard from a recognized security comapny take-off the badge he was wearing. He would make a note of it and turn over the information to his leadership.
Enjoy the day,
Bill
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You can go to the firestore.com and customize your own badge. Our company issues gold badges with the company name and our unit number.
In DC, if you are wearing an outer garmet (jacket/sweater) your nameplate and badge must be visible on the outside or you are in violation of code. The same goes for your headgear, it must have a badge on it.
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I wish my company allowed nametags on outerwear... We're only allowed them on the uniform shirt, and not on the commando sweater or the jacket; The jacket issue being something about not wanting to put pin holes in it, but they make magnet back nametags so...
Same for the hats... I wear a CPO campaign hat, but no badge on that either, just the gold/black hat cord, although I've been told that even some of our local PD don't wear badges on their hats either...“Two wrongs don't make a right, but three rights make a left”
"I swear to God, I'm going to pistol whip the next guy that says 'Shenanigans' "... Capt. O'Hagan, "Super Troopers"
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Originally posted by InvestigationUnless you know my experience and training, don’t come at me with some nonsense statement like that.
Then why don't you tell us all about your "experience & training. I'm sure some of us would love to hear all about it.
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
~~George Orwell.
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First off, be sure that it is indeed an EXACT replica of the state seal. Some of the "state seals" provided by badge companies are NOT exact replicas in that they use different colors...as here:
Compare the Washington seal in the bottom row of seals on this page:
http://www.smithwarren.com/catalog_80-56.php
...to the actual state seal on this page:
http://www.netstate.com/states/symb/seals/wa_seal.htm
If it's not an exact replica, what purpose is there in raising what amounts to an meaningless administrative quibble except to make a nuisance of yourself toward a brother in arms?"Every betrayal begins with trust." - Brian Jacques
"I can't predict the future, but I know that it'll be very weird." - Anonymous
"There is nothing new under the sun." - Ecclesiastes 1:9
"History, with all its volumes vast, hath but one page." - Lord Byron
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Originally posted by SecTrainerFirst off, be sure that it is indeed an EXACT replica of the state seal. Some of the "state seals" provided by badge companies are NOT exact replicas in that they use different colors...as here:
Compare the Washington seal in the bottom row of seals on this page:
http://www.smithwarren.com/catalog_80-56.php
...to the actual state seal on this page:
http://www.netstate.com/states/symb/seals/wa_seal.htm
If it's not an exact replica, what purpose is there in raising what amounts to an meaningless administrative quibble except to make a nuisance of yourself toward a brother in arms?Security: Freedom from fear; danger; safe; a feeling of well-being. (Webster's)
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Originally posted by SecTrainerFirst off, be sure that it is indeed an EXACT replica of the state seal. Some of the "state seals" provided by badge companies are NOT exact replicas in that they use different colors...as here:
Compare the Washington seal in the bottom row of seals on this page:
http://www.smithwarren.com/catalog_80-56.php
...to the actual state seal on this page:
http://www.netstate.com/states/symb/seals/wa_seal.htm
If it's not an exact replica, what purpose is there in raising what amounts to an meaningless administrative quibble except to make a nuisance of yourself toward a brother in arms?
"Alright guys listen up, ya'll have probably heard this before, Jackson vs. Securiplex corporation; I am a private security officer, I have no State or governmental authority. I stand as an ordinary citizen. I have no right to; detain, interrogate or otherwise interfere with your personal property-... basically all that means is I'm a cop."-Officer Ernie
"The Curve" 1998
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Yup, because that's what's available from that particular badge company. However, this doesn't alter the fact that it's not the official state seal (police agencies using a particular version of a seal does not make it the "official state seal"), or - more importantly - the fact that this is a ridiculous administrative quibble that does not redound to the benefit of the industry in any way."Every betrayal begins with trust." - Brian Jacques
"I can't predict the future, but I know that it'll be very weird." - Anonymous
"There is nothing new under the sun." - Ecclesiastes 1:9
"History, with all its volumes vast, hath but one page." - Lord Byron
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