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  • #76
    Here in Central PA

    Most everyone uses amber for there lights. There are two outfits that use amber and green. One outfit buy the used vehicles from the other fully equiped when they get rid of them. Very few outfits use full feature lightbars with alleys or takedowns. I never seen or heard that ther law addresses security vehicles, it makes referance to service vehicles, which leaves a lot of quessing. The last time I checked the actual laws I found that alleys and takedowns are not allowed. Only one spotlight maybe used on any vehicle. The law also shows diagrams of how a lightbar should be set up. However the regs are outdated and most every lightbar out there would be illegal due to too many rotaters or strobe bulbs in it. However all that said I run a Whelen Egde, amber,with 4 strobes, 4 halagon flashers, alley lights and takedown lights that also flash. My truck was also equiped with hide aways in the front amber markers. Also the truck has a Federal Signal Traffic Director. I use this truck (personal) for security (special events) and at times filling in with a lawncare buisness.

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    • #77
      A lot of states have "spot lamp" regulations to prohibit the huge RALLY bars on the trucks. Light bars do not meet the reqiurement of "spot lamp," mainly because if they did, they'd be removed post haste by over-zealous law enforcement who dislikes security. (Yet leaves other vehicles of similar design alone.)
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      • #78
        http://www.valleyprotective.com/

        i do not work for this company, but many have inquired about how "green" looks lit up, well here is salt lake valley protective webpage with their "greens" on. :P


        well according to utah traffic code admended just this year..

        High intensity beams -- Red or blue lights -- Flashing lights -- Color of rear lights and reflectors.

        (1) (a) Except as provided under Subsection (1)(b), under the conditions specified under Subsection 41-6a-1603(1)(a), a lighted lamp or illuminating device on a vehicle, which projects a beam of light of an intensity greater than 300 candlepower shall be directed so that no part of the high intensity portion of the beam will strike the level of the roadway on which the vehicle stands at a distance of more than 75 feet from the vehicle.
        (b) The provisions of Subsection (1)(a) do not apply to head lamps, spot lamps, auxiliary lamps, flashing turn signals, hazard warning lamps, and school bus warning lamps.
        (c) A motor vehicle on a highway may not have more than a total of four lamps lighted on the front of the vehicle including head lamps, auxiliary lamps, spot lamps, or any other lamp if the lamp projects a beam of an intensity greater than 300 candlepower.
        (2) (a) Except for an authorized emergency vehicle and a school bus, a person may not operate or move any vehicle or equipment on a highway with a lamp or device capable of displaying a red light that is visible from directly in front of the center of the vehicle. (b) Except for a law enforcement vehicle, a person may not operate or move any vehicle or equipment on a highway with a lamp or device capable of displaying a blue light that is visible from directly in front of the center of the vehicle.
        (3) A person may not use flashing lights on a vehicle except for:
        (a) taillights of bicycles under Section 41-6a-1114;
        (b) authorized emergency vehicles under rules made by the department under Section 41-6a-1601;
        (c) turn signals under Section 41-6a-1604;
        (d) hazard warning lights under Sections 41-6a-1608 and 41-6a-1611;
        (e) school bus flashing lights under Section 41-6a-1302; and
        (f) vehicles engaged in highway construction or maintenance under Section 41-6a-1617.
        (4) A person may not use a rotating light on any vehicle other than an authorized emergency vehicle.


        so as long as red and blue are not up front or placed in the center.... we can use em lol..... but by all means we dont use rotating lights lol.... just flashing and strobing ones he he... lol..

        so in a since they allow us more leeway with our lights this year. as the old title code clearly definded that only registered emergency response vehicles could use red or blue light periond. but now its just not in front center..... so i wonder how many companies will catch onto the new rules...
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        • #79
          This is hilarious, and yet sad. Also, I don't see any pics on that site of vehicles with green lights.
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          • #80
            The main page has a car w/ greens.
            "Alright guys listen up, ya'll have probably heard this before, Jackson vs. Securiplex corporation; I am a private security officer, I have no State or governmental authority. I stand as an ordinary citizen. I have no right to; detain, interrogate or otherwise interfere with your personal property-... basically all that means is I'm a cop."-Officer Ernie
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            • #81
              Originally posted by BHR Lawson
              The main page has a car w/ greens.
              Now I'm gonna look in the source to see why that picture only displays when viewing the page in Internet Explorer...
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              • #82
                Odd the link didn't even work for me...

                I find it funny how other states allow people to have all these different colors on their cars and use them (sometimes) on provate property, BUT you can't use them on any streets. In Oregon, you can't even have your vehicle EQUIPPED with red or blue or green lights.

                Those little kiddies that buy those stupid lights for their tires and ground effects get pissed when the cops give them grief, or if they fail the attitude test-tickets for having them turned on while hanging out in some parking lot at night.

                As far as purple in the Oregon veh code, I know it says for funeral processions only, where? I am too tired to look. Here a legal funeral procession doesn't have to stop at red lights-all the cars in the procession! Anyone familiar with that in their home states?
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                • #83
                  As far as I know, unless you are under police escort (not funeral motorcycle civilian escort) and you decide not to stop at a red light, you're committing reckless driving.
                  "Alright guys listen up, ya'll have probably heard this before, Jackson vs. Securiplex corporation; I am a private security officer, I have no State or governmental authority. I stand as an ordinary citizen. I have no right to; detain, interrogate or otherwise interfere with your personal property-... basically all that means is I'm a cop."-Officer Ernie
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                  • #84
                    In Michigan, the funeral procession has the right of way.

                    "A motor vehicle forming part of a funeral procession, when going to a place of burial, shall have the right of way over all other vehicles except fire apparatus, ambulances, and police patrol vehicles at a street or highway intersection within this state if the vehicle in the funeral procession displays a flag which shall be fluorescent orange in color, and upon which shall be printed, stamped, or stained a black cross, the star of David, or the crescent and star. The lead vehicle and the last vehicle in the funeral procession may carry an additional flag. The flags shall not contain a name embossed or printed on the flag, except the word “funeral”.

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                    • #85
                      TWC/G4S is all amber. But a lot of them are starting to go slickback (no lightbar).

                      I've seen some pretty far out light bars here in Florida lately. Never have my camera when I do though. I saw one of these on a County vehicle a week ago but could not catch which county. Found it on you tube though. This thing looked like something from close encounters.

                      http://youtube.com/watch?v=v6DwF8VBWLI

                      The new lightbars going on all FHP vehicles are cool. Just not getting use to them running red in the day and blue at night.

                      http://www.sspmustang.org/fhp/FHP_photo97.htm

                      As for these guys, this a stock photo?

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                      • #86
                        Alrighty theeeeeeeeeen, Now that I have had some sleep and put some brain cells to good use, I have to now admit that I WAS WRONG. The only time the purple is mentioned in the Oregon Vehicle Code is when it is refering to lighting of taillights. Something to do with drilling out a litle section and then inserting either a blue or purple lense or what not. So oops...

                        And, as far as Funeral Procession go;

                        They are to use fire service lights, ie a little red Kojak on the dash will suffice. All vehicles in the process must have their low beam headlights on. Also, IF the lead procession vehicle enters an intersection and for sake of argument the light is green, then ALL the other veicles in the procession may continue even if the light cycles back to yellow then red. However, they must give way to LE, FD, or EMS.

                        I really liked the idea of having to have a little flag at the beginning and end of the procession...

                        So there ya go, sorry for the misinformation.
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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by Echos13
                          TWC/G4S is all amber. But a lot of them are starting to go slickback (no lightbar).

                          I've seen some pretty far out light bars here in Florida lately. Never have my camera when I do though. I saw one of these on a County vehicle a week ago but could not catch which county. Found it on you tube though. This thing looked like something from close encounters.

                          http://youtube.com/watch?v=v6DwF8VBWLI

                          The new lightbars going on all FHP vehicles are cool. Just not getting use to them running red in the day and blue at night.

                          http://www.sspmustang.org/fhp/FHP_photo97.htm

                          As for these guys, this a stock photo?

                          http://www.midwest-security.net/services.asp
                          I don't believe they are stock. St. Louis, Missouri, supposedly has no such thing as armed security. They are all special deputies, but still use the term "security officer."

                          I've seen a bunch of training that security gets at a college near St. Louis. With your credentials as a St. Louis County Security Officer, you get unrestricted LE training.
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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by ValleyOne
                            Alrighty theeeeeeeeeen, Now that I have had some sleep and put some brain cells to good use, I have to now admit that I WAS WRONG. The only time the purple is mentioned in the Oregon Vehicle Code is when it is refering to lighting of taillights. Something to do with drilling out a litle section and then inserting either a blue or purple lense or what not. So oops...
                            Holy cow I remember that from back in the 50s or 60s. I think it was the 1953 ford tail lights that we replaced the center with a purple lens about the size of a nickle. It was really cool to see but in those days the cops were tough and nothing except the stock colors were legal. So we settled for red bullet shaped tail lights. Still cool just not as.
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