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    Portable surveillance systems. Take a look and give me some thoughts on what you would do with systems like that.

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  • #2
    I'd be interested in knowing how the data is transmitted, and how the system survives vandalism or purposeful attack.

    Some idiot threw a trailer with cameras mounted on it at one of our construction sites. There was a guard inside, no license to work in Florida, no agency license, none of it. The cameras were inoperative, and the guy was watching TV. When I noticed this at beginning of my shift (the winner I was relieving thought it was supposed to be there, and never noticed the guy manning it), a quick call to the supervisor and some checking on the web revealed it needed to go - right quick.

    Especially since we the client did not want to be bothered by our company (no contact information), and the trailer was illegal as hell. When the deputies arrived and we took the place apart, we realized that the cameras didn't work and there was no power to the trailer - the TV was battery operated.
    Some Kind of Commando Leader

    "Every time I see another crazy Florida post, I'm glad I don't work there." ~ Minneapolis Security on Florida Security Law

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    • #3
      Originally posted by N. A. Corbier
      I'd be interested in knowing how the data is transmitted, and how the system survives vandalism or purposeful attack.

      Some idiot threw a trailer with cameras mounted on it at one of our construction sites. There was a guard inside, no license to work in Florida, no agency license, none of it. The cameras were inoperative, and the guy was watching TV. When I noticed this at beginning of my shift (the winner I was relieving thought it was supposed to be there, and never noticed the guy manning it), a quick call to the supervisor and some checking on the web revealed it needed to go - right quick.

      Especially since we the client did not want to be bothered by our company (no contact information), and the trailer was illegal as hell. When the deputies arrived and we took the place apart, we realized that the cameras didn't work and there was no power to the trailer - the TV was battery operated.
      The name of that company wouldn't have been Construction Protective Services now would it?

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      • #4
        Portable system

        The trailer transmits in various ways. We have built them with secure Wifi for public agencies. We also transmit via.. wireless broadband, microwave, and satellite. As for vandalism, the system is made with sensors inside that detect movement around the system as well as tampering. The system is designed such that all cabling is internal to the system so wires cannot be cut. If a sensor senses tampering the alarm is automatically transmited to either the client or the clients security personnel on site via internet cell phone. The security personnel can also control the PTZ cameras through cell phone or wireless pda. The power for the system is solar with a large battery bank (we also have systems that have generator for battery recharge and system power). Even with the solar model if there is no sunshine the system can run over 96 hours with the battery bank. There is also a charger installed for recharge. The system mast we designed can give accurate video without shaking in 75 mph winds. The system can withstand winds up to 150 mph. We recently tested a system during katrina with only minor damage due to debris. The system worked great and caught some wild video. Any more questions just let me know.

        The system also has an onboard dvr that can be accessed remotely while recording. You can also set the system to send a picture e-mail or alarm if there is activity in a particular zone. That comes in handy for high security areas.

        The system is solid steel so it is not light or easily carried away. The boxes that hold the electronics (dvr) are also double walled and fire rated to protect the information.
        Last edited by Rooney; 09-27-2006, 04:06 PM.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by GCMC Security
          The name of that company wouldn't have been Construction Protective Services now would it?
          Yes. Yes it was.
          Some Kind of Commando Leader

          "Every time I see another crazy Florida post, I'm glad I don't work there." ~ Minneapolis Security on Florida Security Law

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Rooney
            The trailer transmits in various ways. We have built them with secure Wifi for public agencies. We also transmit via.. wireless broadband, microwave, and satellite. As for vandalism, the system is made with sensors inside that detect movement around the system as well as tampering. The system is designed such that all cabling is internal to the system so wires cannot be cut. If a sensor senses tampering the alarm is automatically transmited to either the client or the clients security personnel on site via internet cell phone. The security personnel can also control the PTZ cameras through cell phone or wireless pda. The power for the system is solar with a large battery bank (we also have systems that have generator for battery recharge and system power). Even with the solar model if there is no sunshine the system can run over 96 hours with the battery bank. There is also a charger installed for recharge. The system mast we designed can give accurate video without shaking in 75 mph winds. The system can withstand winds up to 150 mph. We recently tested a system during katrina with only minor damage due to debris. The system worked great and caught some wild video. Any more questions just let me know.

            The system also has an onboard dvr that can be accessed remotely while recording. You can also set the system to send a picture e-mail or alarm if there is activity in a particular zone. That comes in handy for high security areas.

            The system is solid steel so it is not light or easily carried away. The boxes that hold the electronics (dvr) are also double walled and fire rated to protect the information.
            This sounds like some real thought was put into it, unlike other attempts. I take it that you have military contracts. While wireless can be jammed, it would take a sophisticated threat force to engage in such denial aspects. And if you have that sophisticated advisarial groups, you won't deploy one of these things and have nothing else protecting the target.
            Some Kind of Commando Leader

            "Every time I see another crazy Florida post, I'm glad I don't work there." ~ Minneapolis Security on Florida Security Law

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            • #7
              The wireless could be jammed by a sophisticated device, but, it would have to jam multiple frequencies. Obviously of which I will not state here.

              We are building systems for the military. Unlike our self contained system the military does not need as much security options due to the system being used in a guarded situation. Since the attack on the USS Cole we have been developing these systems specifically for port and harbor surveillance. The system can also deploy acoustic strings under the water to listen for divers or other threats. It is an all-in-one security system, i.e. Radar, Thermal and cctv cameras, acoustic sensor string, etc. Above-on-or below we'll see them.

              As for the thinking time 2 years from drawing board to prototype. 2 years commercial development. And now puting them out as fast as we can. The prototype by the way is still running here in the desert and we have done absolutely zero maintenance to it. It was completed in 2000. We build them tough.
              Last edited by Rooney; 09-27-2006, 08:19 PM.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by N. A. Corbier
                Yes. Yes it was.

                literally the WORST of the WBC I have seen. That was the company I worked with for the couple months I was in Tampa. I got yanked around, basically because I was the only officer that had any profesionalism.

                case in point I had to move to one account because an officer working in a development and was peeking into the already occupied houses. When I took over, found out that he was not turning in SORs. After I talked to him I learned the reason real quick. He knew about 6 words in english Now I may be mistaken but is the 'D' Test given in Spanish

                I left when they were late bringing me my check the second time in row (the second time was 4 days late.

                They have a good concept but the company leaves much to be desired

                Sorry for bringing this off topic, continue lol

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by GCMC Security
                  literally the WORST of the WBC I have seen. That was the company I worked with for the couple months I was in Tampa. I got yanked around, basically because I was the only officer that had any profesionalism.

                  case in point I had to move to one account because an officer working in a development and was peeking into the already occupied houses. When I took over, found out that he was not turning in SORs. After I talked to him I learned the reason real quick. He knew about 6 words in english Now I may be mistaken but is the 'D' Test given in Spanish

                  I left when they were late bringing me my check the second time in row (the second time was 4 days late.

                  They have a good concept but the company leaves much to be desired

                  Sorry for bringing this off topic, continue lol
                  Sounds like a company I used to work for. Glad I'm here.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Rooney
                    The wireless could be jammed by a sophisticated device, but, it would have to jam multiple frequencies. Obviously of which I will not state here.

                    We are building systems for the military. Unlike our self contained system the military does not need as much security options due to the system being used in a guarded situation. Since the attack on the USS Cole we have been developing these systems specifically for port and harbor surveillance. The system can also deploy acoustic strings under the water to listen for divers or other threats. It is an all-in-one security system, i.e. Radar, Thermal and cctv cameras, acoustic sensor string, etc. Above-on-or below we'll see them.

                    As for the thinking time 2 years from drawing board to prototype. 2 years commercial development. And now puting them out as fast as we can. The prototype by the way is still running here in the desert and we have done absolutely zero maintenance to it. It was completed in 2000. We build them tough.
                    Is your firm on the GSA schedule? These units sound extremely useful for DOD and DHS applications, in both custom and COTS formats. If I was responsible for guarding vast tracks of infrastructure, I'd use a mixture of pre-fab guard force stations (Not those stupid pill-boxes, more like a ranger's station where you can live in the thing), patrol vehicles, and these boxes setup with FLIR/TV/sismic/passive audio. The guard force patrol, has mesh link to the boxes, the boxes report, and everybody can ask a box "what's going on?" during an alarm trip. Having the device report a problem is a lot better than having a human try to see one. After all, after the first 20 minutes, you are so not gonna notice someone walking under the camera's viewfield.
                    Some Kind of Commando Leader

                    "Every time I see another crazy Florida post, I'm glad I don't work there." ~ Minneapolis Security on Florida Security Law

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by N. A. Corbier
                      Is your firm on the GSA schedule? These units sound extremely useful for DOD and DHS applications, in both custom and COTS formats. If I was responsible for guarding vast tracks of infrastructure, I'd use a mixture of pre-fab guard force stations (Not those stupid pill-boxes, more like a ranger's station where you can live in the thing), patrol vehicles, and these boxes setup with FLIR/TV/sismic/passive audio. The guard force patrol, has mesh link to the boxes, the boxes report, and everybody can ask a box "what's going on?" during an alarm trip. Having the device report a problem is a lot better than having a human try to see one. After all, after the first 20 minutes, you are so not gonna notice someone walking under the camera's viewfield.
                      We are currently working on the GSA app.. We are building for DOD and have alot of interest from DHS. Wouldn't you know it, they were planning on ordering quite a few when they decided to announce the SBINET. So it was put on hold. Hopefully Boeing will want to incorporate them into the SBINET.

                      Another good feature of the system is that it can also be a reciever for wireless sensors and cameras to give a larger area of coverage. This is particularily handy at large DOD facilities where there is thousands of acres and parts of the facility are away from any utilities.

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                      • #12
                        It can do mesh networking? You folks should really advertise in Law Enforcement Products (www.officer.com), Security Dealer (www.securityinfowatch.com), and (shh, its not a Cygnus publication) Federal Computer Week (fcw.com)
                        Some Kind of Commando Leader

                        "Every time I see another crazy Florida post, I'm glad I don't work there." ~ Minneapolis Security on Florida Security Law

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                        • #13
                          Yes we do have systems with mesh networks as well as spread spectrum frequency hopping. As for the advertising we are increasing it soon. Most of our success has been through word of mouth from clients. That is one of the reasons I posted here. We are moving to a larger facility towards the end of the year to match the large demand we have had. If anyone wants more info or has any questions just drop me a line.

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