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  • #16
    Originally posted by omni_blue
    ^For state of california, city of sacramento.

    For the record, I passed the exam this morning. When they were printing the test results it felt as though a doctor was about to announce my first born child. Nerve recking.

    Thanks to everyone of wished me well.
    Congratulations! I will be glad to invest some time with you on the phone with somes tips on getting started and some issues you should anticipate. PM me with some convenient times.

    Good luck,
    Richard
    Richard Dickinson
    Dickinson Security Management Group, LLC
    DSMG Provides a Variety of Software Products and Consulting Services to the Contract Security Industry
    www.hrdickinson.com

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    • #17
      Originally posted by publicsafetyred
      Congrats! I wish you the best. What names have you thaught of for your PPO?
      I've chosen "Third Eye Patrol". The name has been approved by BSIS. All that is left is the approval of Patch & Badge design.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by omni_blue
        I've chosen "Third Eye Patrol". The name has been approved by BSIS. All that is left is the approval of Patch & Badge design.
        Sounds good, again the best of luck to you. I hope you keep it honest.

        I own a PPO in the Southern part of the state and I would be gald to help guide you through any quick questions or problems. I do suggest checking out CALSAGA. www.calsaga.org

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        • #19
          Mobile Patrol pricing?

          Can anyone offer any information or tips on mobile patrol pricing?

          I am recently licensed in Georgia and want to offer this service in addition to guards. We will eventually be offering residential and commercial patrols for alarm response and keyholder service, time-share, wellfare checks, house watches, and employee escorts.

          Thanks.

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          • #20
            i started my own security company here in germany about 15 years ago

            www.pss-soest.de

            masterchief
            Last edited by masterchief; 08-17-2006, 02:43 PM.
            "There are three kinds of people in the world. There are wolves and there are sheep. And then there are those who protect the sheep from the wolves..."

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            • #21
              Mobile Patrol Pricing

              Originally posted by blfender
              Can anyone offer any information or tips on mobile patrol pricing?

              I am recently licensed in Georgia and want to offer this service in addition to guards. We will eventually be offering residential and commercial patrols for alarm response and keyholder service, time-share, wellfare checks, house watches, and employee escorts.

              Thanks.
              blfender,

              You need to be very careful with patrol costs and pricing. You will have all the normal expenses of any contract security company such as payroll, payroll taxes, insurance, uniforms, recruiting, screening, benefits, communications, etc. If you have a vehicle on the road 24/7, and you pay your drivers/officers say $10.00, you can expect that your total direct costs (BEFORE vehicle expense) will be in the area of $2,200 per WEEK depending on your tax and insurance rates.

              A vehicle with a cost of $22,500, running 50,000 miles per year at 19 mph, $3.00/gal gas, $300/mo insurance, $150/mo maintenance, etc. is going to cost approx. $24,000 per year or $460 per WEEK.

              That's $2,660 just in direct costs. To that you have to add all of your fixed expenses such as rent, your salary, other administrative salaries, telephone, utilities, etc.

              Compute your fixed expenses by week and add them to the direct expenses. The total is your breakeven point, or, the amount you have to bill each week just to stay in business. After that it's profit.

              I'll be glad to discuss this with you further. PM me or contact me through my website below.

              Richard
              Richard Dickinson
              Dickinson Security Management Group, LLC
              DSMG Provides a Variety of Software Products and Consulting Services to the Contract Security Industry
              www.hrdickinson.com

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              • #22
                I've noticed that unless you have a large network of patrol accounts to share the expense of the unit(s), the patrol unit runs at a loss or break even point. However, there is one non-traditional revenue generator with a patrol account: Free advertisement. People see the car. And the driver.

                If its a "good" looking car with a "professional" looking officer, it may entice them enough to call when they need similar services. If its an old beater or a very non-traditional car or without the "professional" looking officer - then its a negative advertisement that everyone is going to see...

                Another thing most companies seem to love to do is stick a salaried supervisor in the car and have him perform his supervisory tasks between mobile patrol site hits. This is outstandingly annoying to the superivsor - because he doesn't really have time to be doing his hits when someone called off or he has to go visit a property that needs supervisory presence.

                If you have a supervisor on the road, keep him seperate from the patrol accounts. His job is supervision. If you put two jobs in his lap, he will do his primary job first. And then you will have missed patrol hits. Your clients might be understanding, but that wears off quick when you couldn't provide the service contracted for since the superivsor had to man a post for 4 hours.
                Some Kind of Commando Leader

                "Every time I see another crazy Florida post, I'm glad I don't work there." ~ Minneapolis Security on Florida Security Law

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Mall Director
                  Congrats! I do not own, nor wish to own a Security Agency, as it has been stated, that the less moral operating Agencies do undercut the real deal Agencies. I do however work with a client, and manage a Regional Department of Security, with in Malls. It is a challenge, and I hope you do well!
                  I am a Director of Security for a mall too. It is a very interesting job and nothing like people would expect. Many different challenges every day. What state are you in?
                  Find local security jobs at www.securityemploymentservices.com

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                  • #24
                    Do any security company owners operate their business from home?

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by omni_blue
                      Do any security company owners operate their business from home?
                      I knew of a company that did. Very strange, too, because the entire side of the street was lined with patrol vehicles. Technically, it was a branch office of a California company, if I remember correctly.
                      Some Kind of Commando Leader

                      "Every time I see another crazy Florida post, I'm glad I don't work there." ~ Minneapolis Security on Florida Security Law

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                      • #26
                        I worked for a company (one day) that was run out of an Apartment on a Client's site... The patrol vehicles took up the entire parking area alotted the entire Apartment complex.
                        "What if this is as good as it gets?" ~ Melvin Udall

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                        • #27
                          Thanks for the reply guys. Renting/Buying office space gets a bit pricey, so I was checking if running it from home would work. If I did: Clients and employees would be met somewhere else, but what's to stop someone from looking up my business address and knocking on my condo door? Decisions, Decision.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by omni_blue
                            Thanks for the reply guys. Renting/Buying office space gets a bit pricey, so I was checking if running it from home would work. If I did: Clients and employees would be met somewhere else, but what's to stop someone from looking up my business address and knocking on my condo door? Decisions, Decision.
                            Nothing. Absolutely nothing.

                            Also, higher calibre employees may not want to work for you, realizing that "This job app is at Denny's? How is this guy gonna pay me, he can't even pay for an office."

                            I suggest you look into rented office space through a national chain like Regis.
                            Some Kind of Commando Leader

                            "Every time I see another crazy Florida post, I'm glad I don't work there." ~ Minneapolis Security on Florida Security Law

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by N. A. Corbier
                              Nothing. Absolutely nothing.

                              Also, higher calibre employees may not want to work for you, realizing that "This job app is at Denny's? How is this guy gonna pay me, he can't even pay for an office."

                              I suggest you look into rented office space through a national chain like Regis.
                              I agree with N.A. You need to accumulate enough money to fund your critical fixed expenses and working capital requirements until your business grows to a point where the gross profits will cover it. Rent is definately a critical fixed expense. It doesn't need to be fancy. Don't try to impress your clients. Except as part of a RFQ by a fortunate 500 client, very few want to visit your office.
                              Richard Dickinson
                              Dickinson Security Management Group, LLC
                              DSMG Provides a Variety of Software Products and Consulting Services to the Contract Security Industry
                              www.hrdickinson.com

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                              • #30
                                Right now I'm drafting a subcontract with my previous employers. This way i can recoupe some of my initial investment and pay for office space ($250-300/month).

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