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    I was a TPS for target, and hated it. I wanted to do undercover LP, and I was hired by SEARs a few days ago.

    Now Ive heard that SEARs is a terrible LP company to work for, and there policies handicap LPs extremely, but my boss makes it sound like we can do whatever we feel like (ie chase people in parking lot, tackle in the store) as long as it is written up correctly in the report.

    So what do you guys think? What is SEARS like to work for in real world terms?

  • #2
    Originally posted by CanISeeYourReciept
    I was a TPS for target, and hated it. I wanted to do undercover LP, and I was hired by SEARs a few days ago.

    Now Ive heard that SEARs is a terrible LP company to work for, and there policies handicap LPs extremely, but my boss makes it sound like we can do whatever we feel like (ie chase people in parking lot, tackle in the store) as long as it is written up correctly in the report.

    So what do you guys think? What is SEARS like to work for in real world terms?
    First off, your store's loss prevention policies do not override the law of the state you work in. Which state do you work in?

    Second, define "written up correctly in the report?" Is this "creative report writing," per chance? Creative report writing is falsifying documents, and may actually be a crime in your state. Most of the time, though, it is not since you are not a police officer and are not making a sworn statement on your report.
    Some Kind of Commando Leader

    "Every time I see another crazy Florida post, I'm glad I don't work there." ~ Minneapolis Security on Florida Security Law

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    • #3
      [QUOTE=CanISeeYourReciept]I was a TPS for target, and hated it.QUOTE]

      Why didn't you like Target?

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      • #4
        [QUOTE=histfan71]
        Originally posted by CanISeeYourReciept
        I was a TPS for target, and hated it.QUOTE]

        Why didn't you like Target?
        I could see why someone could dislike being a Target TPS (Target Protection Specialist). Its the uniformed position at the door that is pure deterrance. They don't /move/ without the APS' permission.
        Some Kind of Commando Leader

        "Every time I see another crazy Florida post, I'm glad I don't work there." ~ Minneapolis Security on Florida Security Law

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        • #5
          Sears

          CanISeeYourReceipt-

          Sears has a very restrictive policy. This is due to lawsuits and injuries sustained by LPs in the past. The policy is one of the most restrictive within the industry. If you have not already been advised by your LPM, I will PM you the policy/6 steps.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by N. A. Corbier
            .....
            Second, define "written up correctly in the report?" Is this "creative report writing," per chance? Creative report writing is falsifying documents, and may actually be a crime in your state. Most of the time, though, it is not since you are not a police officer and are not making a sworn statement on your report.
            NA makes a valid point. Even though you may not be making a sworn statement, you will be if the case goes to court and you are a witness. Perjury is a serious felony. If you tell the truth and the arrest is ruled unlawful, criminal and/or civil action may follow.
            Security: Freedom from fear; danger; safe; a feeling of well-being. (Webster's)

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            • #7
              I hated having to stand in one spot for 8 hours at a time. Plus my target was exremely restrictive. And yea i would like to hear the "six" steps. I was only aware of 5.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by CanISeeYourReciept
                I hated having to stand in one spot for 8 hours at a time. Plus my target was exremely restrictive. And yea i would like to hear the "six" steps. I was only aware of 5.
                OK, I see your point. Standing in one stop would drive me crazy too. Why couldn't you upgrade to a Loss Prevention slot?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by CanISeeYourReciept
                  I hated having to stand in one spot for 8 hours at a time. Plus my target was exremely restrictive. And yea i would like to hear the "six" steps. I was only aware of 5.
                  I've heard 5, 6, and even SEVEN steps.

                  It depends on your school of thought and prevailing law.
                  Some Kind of Commando Leader

                  "Every time I see another crazy Florida post, I'm glad I don't work there." ~ Minneapolis Security on Florida Security Law

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by CanISeeYourReciept
                    So what do you guys think? What is SEARS like to work for in real world terms?
                    A big joke. I have been in LP for almost a year. I punch someone in the face at the very least once a week. I kick butt and get stuff done. Down the street LP can't even touch shoplifters, take down a description of the suspects/vehicle and direction of travel.

                    My safety comes above all company policy. If I feel that I need to hit or slam some punk then I do. I have never been disciplined for this, and my boss is well aware of what I do. Call it extreme, call it wrong that is your opinion...but it works.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by BoxerGuard
                      A big joke. I have been in LP for almost a year. I punch someone in the face at the very least once a week. I kick butt and get stuff done. Down the street LP can't even touch shoplifters, take down a description of the suspects/vehicle and direction of travel.

                      My safety comes above all company policy. If I feel that I need to hit or slam some punk then I do. I have never been disciplined for this, and my boss is well aware of what I do. Call it extreme, call it wrong that is your opinion...but it works.
                      Punching and slamming people seems to be a common theme in your posts, Boxer. What area are you from? I'd LOVE to come shopping at your store, I need a new front porch on my house. For that matter, I could use a new house!

                      No wonder we struggle to get people to take our profession seriously. Boxer, keep in mind you may wanna grow-up and be a real protection professional someday, and written comments like those could creep their way into your personnel file. Think, man, think!!!
                      Last edited by jimmyhat; 02-28-2006, 06:23 PM.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by BoxerGuard
                        A big joke. I have been in LP for almost a year. I punch someone in the face at the very least once a week. I kick butt and get stuff done. Down the street LP can't even touch shoplifters, take down a description of the suspects/vehicle and direction of travel.

                        My safety comes above all company policy. If I feel that I need to hit or slam some punk then I do. I have never been disciplined for this, and my boss is well aware of what I do. Call it extreme, call it wrong that is your opinion...but it works.
                        Punching someone in the face? That's Assault no matter what state you live in... not my opinion, but fact.
                        "To win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the highest skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the highest skill." Sun-Tzu

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by BoxerGuard
                          I have been in LP for almost a year. I punch someone in the face at the very least once a week. I kick butt and get stuff done.
                          My safety comes above all company policy. If I feel that I need to hit or slam some punk then I do. I have never been disciplined for this, and my boss is well aware of what I do. Call it extreme, call it wrong that is your opinion...but it works.
                          I am not going to jump to conclusions. I would need to be there first hand to witness you, hear your side of the story, shoplifter's side , any witnesse's side(s).

                          Therefore, I trust your discretion and I am sure that you do a fine job.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by BoxerGuard
                            A big joke. I have been in LP for almost a year. I punch someone in the face at the very least once a week. I kick butt and get stuff done. Down the street LP can't even touch shoplifters, take down a description of the suspects/vehicle and direction of travel.

                            My safety comes above all company policy. If I feel that I need to hit or slam some punk then I do. I have never been disciplined for this, and my boss is well aware of what I do. Call it extreme, call it wrong that is your opinion...but it works.
                            BoxerGuard, it is not whether or not your measures are extreme rather are they good for the security industry. Just in public policing, muscle bound misfits were weeded out of police work.
                            You have two effective muscles, your brain and your tongue. It goes much further to create reasonableness, fairness and a good public image.
                            You are extremely fortunate not to have been cited for assault and battery.
                            A boorish security person tarnishes the image most of us have worked many years to improve and be called professionals.
                            I might add, security thugs are worse than common street thugs. The street thug does not seek legitimacy, the security thug does.
                            You sir, give a curmudgeon a bad name.
                            Enjoy the day,
                            Bill

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by BoxerGuard
                              A big joke. I have been in LP for almost a year. I punch someone in the face at the very least once a week. I kick butt and get stuff done. Down the street LP can't even touch shoplifters, take down a description of the suspects/vehicle and direction of travel.

                              My safety comes above all company policy. If I feel that I need to hit or slam some punk then I do. I have never been disciplined for this, and my boss is well aware of what I do. Call it extreme, call it wrong that is your opinion...but it works.
                              BoxerGuard's attitude and behavior is typical of most security guards in the US today. You wonder why no one takes the security industry (I just cannot bring myself to call the security industry a profession) or security guards seriously?

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