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  • #16
    Originally posted by FoxGhost
    I guess some managers havent learned that it isnt the the volume of prosecution but the lack of crime that tells how good your security force is.
    Seriously, the best way that i know to curb shoplifting is creating the illusion of omnipresence with uniformed security officers.If the thieves cant find any secluded spot to do their deed,they most likely will not do it.So the one thing i have learned is allways to know the quiet corners of the store and be aware of the people who go there.
    The second is for the stores not to hire people who are deaf,dumb and blind as floor staff.Staff tip-offs are the second largest reason that leads to closer surveillance and eventual apprehension of the shoplifter around here,right after CCTV.

    -FoxGhost
    I agree on most of this. Thing is, when people don't steal, there isn't a chance they can be caught and hit with a $100 civil restitution.

    As for needing a secluded place to conceal, I've noticed that seasoned theives don't seem to care. They'll conceal a $300 Bosch drill in their pants with an employee standing 5 feet away as they stand under a PTV. From my experience, it's the soccer mom or the guy who drives a benz who is stealing for the rush of it that finds a spot to hide and conceal.

    I've never worked in a situation that gave me uniformed LPs to help. My store was crap. I was solo and plainclothes. Never had backup. I'm sure my tune would be different if I had a door guard.

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    • #17
      The "seasoned thieves" dont care about anything much.They tend to be so far down the toilet that a little shoplifting charge doesnt even register.A good example of one of them is the first guy i busted.Stuffed cigarette packs into his pockets while on the cashier line with me almost right behind him.In uniform.The sad thing is these guys get away with enough for it to be worth getting caught once in a while.
      Working alone sucks.Having a detective or even another guard at my current post would net more thieves in a week than what i can collar in a month.But that would cost money.I guess thievery doesnt

      FoxGhost
      Shoplifters will be shot.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by FoxGhost
        I guess some managers havent learned that it isnt the the volume of prosecution but the lack of crime that tells how good your security force is.
        -FoxGhost
        I like the way you think.
        Security: Freedom from fear; danger; safe; a feeling of well-being. (Webster's)

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        • #19
          Originally posted by FoxGhost
          The "seasoned thieves" dont care about anything much.They tend to be so far down the toilet that a little shoplifting charge doesnt even register.A good example of one of them is the first guy i busted.Stuffed cigarette packs into his pockets while on the cashier line with me almost right behind him.In uniform.The sad thing is these guys get away with enough for it to be worth getting caught once in a while.
          Working alone sucks.Having a detective or even another guard at my current post would net more thieves in a week than what i can collar in a month.But that would cost money.I guess thievery doesnt

          FoxGhost

          I see what you're saying, but I guess things were a little different when I was working in Illinois. $150 worth of merch stolen in Illinois is a felony. That's the lowest in the US. Point is, even the ones working for a fencing operation were shook.

          You're right about working solo, it's all about money. The excuse I got was "If we assign you a partner, we think you're gonna talk and not do any work." When I told them that I'm making an average 8 stops a month solo and would probably get 12-16 with a partner, they asked me, "You gonna pay his salary?"

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          • #20
            Your observations are dead on!
            Management, in many instances, rings it collective hands, rent their garments and moan "woe is me." No sackcloth or ashes. They talk a good game. But management has a point in that in a majority of cases, these thieves will not face prosecution. One only need look at court dockets. They are jammed with serious cases. So unless we as a society are willing and able to add money to the criminal justice system it will remain as it is now.
            The petty thieves and low lives know this all too well.
            Look at some security programs: fake cameras, monitors that no one monitors or one person sitting there for hours, seeing nothing and then disciplined because someone carried away the whole place. The term "conditioned response" never entered management's mind.
            Enjoy the day,
            Bill

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