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  • Guest
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    Never been to Longview but spent about a week in Port Angelus. Now that place stank to high heaven!

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  • Charger
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    Originally posted by Wackenhut Lawson
    ...I passed the Franklin county courthouse and the first thing that came to my mind was "Oh... that must be the U.S. Embassy"
    LOL Sorry, that just made my day.
    No 'stinky' comments about Longview now guys...

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  • Lawson
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    hahaha... that made me laugh a little bit, out of Kennewick, Richland and Pasco, you chose Pasco? I would never stay a night there. I remember my first time driving through there, and after like 20 minutes, I passed the Franklin county courthouse and the first thing that came to my mind was "Oh... that must be the U.S. Embassy"

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  • Guest
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    In early 2000's I had a job as an auditor which required me to travel all up and down the West Coast. I spent about 3 months total in Washington State. My favorite place had to be Grey's Harbor. It was what most people think that Washington looks like.

    I also spent some time in such areas as Yakima, Pasco, and Wenatchee. Not quite as nice. I remember checking into my hotel in Pasco and asking the girl behind the counter what there was to do in town. The girl had to concentrate for about a minute, then said, "There's bowling!"

    I also stayed in Kent while I was working the Seattle area, and I used to go right by the Boeing plant on my way into the city.

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  • Michael Ledgerwood
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    Originally posted by histfan71
    Michael,

    From your descriptions Boeing sounds like a squared-away outfit. When I was a police sergeant for a college PD in Long Beach, CA I would occasionally run into the Boeing security guys and girls from the Long Beach plant. I was always impressed with their knowledge and professionalism. The fact that the police call on your department to assist them speaks very highly of your organization.

    However, until the security industry adopts screening and training standards equal to, or at least slightly less than, sworn police agencies you will not nor should you be treated as equal to a police officer. I have always said that in-house security guards are several rungs above those who work for contract companies, because every in-house security department I know of has stringent background and training requirements which keeps most of the losers and cop wanna-be's out.
    I agree, I think security training is a joke. Here in the State of Washington you sit down watch a four hour video and take a test thats your training. I understand that security is not police work but in this day and age of terrorism i think governments and agencies need to put their egos in check and realise that good or not security officers out number police officers in this country and it would be a smart idea to train them to a point where they would be beneficial. Am I saying that we need a bunch of wannabes running around playing cop, no I'm not. All I am saying is that the training and minimum requirements can be improved and should be improved. I also think police officers need to realise that security is only as good as the training. Police officers typically think of security as a bunch of wannabes but with the lack of training involved its not hard to think that by "acting like a cop" your doing the right thing. It just frustrates me that a tool as useful as private security goes underutilized by agencies. I agree with you Boeing is pretty squared away but like you said their in house and they can control who they hire

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  • Lawson
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    Is boeing hiring?

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  • Guest
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    Originally posted by Michael Ledgerwood
    I personally think all security officers should be treated as equals unless they show themselves to be imcompetent but thats my opinion.
    Michael,

    From your descriptions Boeing sounds like a squared-away outfit. When I was a police sergeant for a college PD in Long Beach, CA I would occasionally run into the Boeing security guys and girls from the Long Beach plant. I was always impressed with their knowledge and professionalism. The fact that the police call on your department to assist them speaks very highly of your organization.

    However, until the security industry adopts screening and training standards equal to, or at least slightly less than, sworn police agencies you will not nor should you be treated as equal to a police officer. I have always said that in-house security guards are several rungs above those who work for contract companies, because every in-house security department I know of has stringent background and training requirements which keeps most of the losers and cop wanna-be's out.

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  • Michael Ledgerwood
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    Originally posted by Mr. Security
    Welcome Is Boeing in-house or contract security?
    Thank you for the welcome I appreciate it. Currently Boeing is in house Proprietary (sp?) security. They tell me that the laws are different and that Proprietary has more authority than contract but who knows. I know that a few of our smaller sites in other states use contract security but I don't think they get the same results as with us. I know we get some good training and equipment and have a lot of responsibilites because of who we are. For example, local police use us to assist them with accidents and what not so we get to run code on city streets which is cool. The police also tend to look at us as more equals than regular security officers. I personally think all security officers should be treated as equals unless they show themselves to be imcompetent but thats my opinion.

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  • Mr. Security
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    Originally posted by Michael Ledgerwood
    .....Currently I work for Boeing as a security officer......
    Welcome Is Boeing in-house or contract security?

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  • Lawson
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    Mike, I was the carwasher and an Explorer there while you were a CSO and reserve. I dont know if you remember me; Brian. I was wondering where you went.

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  • N. A. Corbier
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    Originally posted by Michael Ledgerwood
    Nice glad to see someone familiar from the site. On that site I am mike749
    Half of us are on O.com, under various names. I'm also Batou on SPETactical and DT4EMS.

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  • Michael Ledgerwood
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    Originally posted by N. A. Corbier
    That was before I realized that VBulletin supported spaces in my name. It is.
    Nice glad to see someone familiar from the site. On that site I am mike749

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  • N. A. Corbier
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    Originally posted by Michael Ledgerwood
    I figured by my full name, but most people don't associate my name with former job so it always suprises me when people recognize me. By the way are you the same N.A.Corbier on O.com?
    That was before I realized that VBulletin supported spaces in my name. It is.

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  • Michael Ledgerwood
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    Originally posted by N. A. Corbier
    Your full name.

    I've had two folks ID me by my name, which I always used Ofc./MPO/Cpl. N. A. Corbier on forms. Only a select few knew my first name.
    I figured by my full name, but most people don't associate my name with former job so it always suprises me when people recognize me. By the way are you the same N.A.Corbier on O.com?

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  • N. A. Corbier
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    Originally posted by Michael Ledgerwood
    Yes I was, Was a CSO and a Reserve for Lacey, how did you know that?
    Your full name.

    I've had two folks ID me by my name, which I always used Ofc./MPO/Cpl. N. A. Corbier on forms. Only a select few knew my first name.

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