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  • SpecialAgentKC
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    Much appreciated.

    Thanks for the warm welcome. As for the State Guard conversation, they vary from state to state. Here in Washington, we are largely used to support the Emergency Management Division by serving as LNOs (liaison officers) in Emergency Operations Centers or the Joint Operations Center. EMD falls under the Adjutant General here as does the State and National Guard.

    We are considered, by law, in Washington equal to and with the status of the National Guard when on state active duty (SAD). This is the only time we are typically in a paid status. We drill monthly on a voluntary basis and are co-located with our WAARNG counterparts in armories at at state headquarters. --K.

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  • Hank1
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    Originally posted by EMTGuard View Post
    National Guard are military who fall under the control of states govenors and may be used by them in a State wide emergency. They also have a federal role in that they canbe activated by the President and "federalized" for service either withing the US or outside it's borders such as in Iraq. When activated by the state the govenor has to find the money to pay their salaries. When federalized the pentagon picks up the tab.
    The State Guard, also know as State Defense Forces, are stictly state forces under the control of the govenor through the state military department. While some may have paid postions such as here in Louisiana, in many states the vast majority are made up of volunteers who drill on their weekends off and pay for most if not all of their equiptment including uniforms. They are the recognized milita and are not to be mistaken for the rouge militia groups who sprang up around the time of the Branch Davidian Compound standoff.
    A good place to start is the State Guard Association of the US - http://www.sgaus.org/ . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Defense_Forces will also give you a good overview.
    Hope this helps.
    Outstanding EMT! I just learned something new. See, this is why I'm here. Thanks for that.


    Be safe,

    Hank

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  • Maelstrom
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    Thanks, that was most informative

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  • EMTGuard
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    Originally posted by Maelstrom View Post
    I'd be curious, if you'd care to share/explain... we only have regulars & reserves (military), I'm not familiar with the concept of the State Guard, though at a guess I figure the 'National Guard' may be the equivalent of our reserve forces
    National Guard are military who fall under the control of states govenors and may be used by them in a State wide emergency. They also have a federal role in that they canbe activated by the President and "federalized" for service either withing the US or outside it's borders such as in Iraq. When activated by the state the govenor has to find the money to pay their salaries. When federalized the pentagon picks up the tab.
    The State Guard, also know as State Defense Forces, are stictly state forces under the control of the govenor through the state military department. While some may have paid postions such as here in Louisiana, in many states the vast majority are made up of volunteers who drill on their weekends off and pay for most if not all of their equiptment including uniforms. They are the recognized milita and are not to be mistaken for the rouge militia groups who sprang up around the time of the Branch Davidian Compound standoff.
    A good place to start is the State Guard Association of the US - http://www.sgaus.org/ . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Defense_Forces will also give you a good overview.
    Hope this helps.
    Last edited by EMTGuard; 09-19-2007, 05:01 PM.

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  • EMTGuard
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    Originally posted by gcmc security part 2 View Post
    EMT

    Out of curiosity were the State Guard used at all after Katrina?

    [thread steal]

    Also you still working at the plant as a EMT/SO? If so I may be picking your brains shortly due to a bid we are getting ready to put together

    [/thread steal]
    THREAD STEAL AHEAD- Was Gonna PM but thought I'd post for all to see.

    The State called up a couple hundred State Guard members for Katrina but they were not the volunteer cadre you normally think of. They were the fulltime and part time paid state employes who are in uniform nearly everyday of the week performing jobs for the Military Department. Also, every civilian employee of the State OEP/EOC is listed as a member of the State Guard. When an emergency is declared all of those employees fall under the state Military Department which is in charge of the EOC. Applications for jobs with the Military Department and the State OEP both include sections on a employee being sworn into the State Guard if they are hired for those agencies. These are the LaSG members refrered to when I saw tht a couple hundred were called to assist the National Guard. As far as I was able to see, no volunteer members of the LaSG were called. A few used to get together for drills every 3 or 4 months but after Katrina destroyed Jackson Barricks in New Orleans I havn't heard of them meeting since. Unlike most other States with SDFs/State Guards there is no website for the LaSG and I only learned about it after I saw a newspaper article stating that Jefferson Parish Sheriff Harry Lee is a Commander of the LaSG. I sent him a letter with my resume' and he got me in touch with the person in charge of recruiting at the time (1997 I think). I'm curious which State Guard the OP is in.
    Pic of me in my Class B State Guard uniform.

    Yes I still have my EMT job at the steel mill. I can't say I am working since what I do can hardly be described as work. I sit at the desk answering phones and waiting for someone to call for a medical complaint. I can go a couple of days with nothing more than redressing bandages on the same guy I see everyday for a burn he got 2 weeks prior. Then I get a dude who dropped a steel block on his foot. (Ice and elevate and consult with the Doctor. Hopefully it doesn't appear broken and he can chill in his department until the end of his shift.)
    Next week I'm spending 2 days at the plant in an EMT refresher class. Depending on the person I am partnered up with I do little or no actual Security stuff. I have one old fart who thinks that everytime I go on patrol or lock up a building I'm trying to put him out of a job. "I'm the security officer here, you're an EMT and here for medical. I lock the buildings and I do the patrols!" ok dood....backs away slowly. Other officers split everything with me right down the middle. I do every other patrol and either one of us can take care of buildings and parking lots. The badge on my uniform and state ID card in my wallet say Security Officer afterall. It just depends on who I'm partnered up with.
    PM me for any brain picking you need to do.

    Thanks for the thread derail.
    Last edited by EMTGuard; 09-19-2007, 01:33 AM.

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  • Maelstrom
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    Originally posted by N. A. Corbier View Post
    I wonder how many people know the difference between a state's National Guard, and their State Guard.
    I'd be curious, if you'd care to share/explain... we only have regulars & reserves (military), I'm not familiar with the concept of the State Guard, though at a guess I figure the 'National Guard' may be the equivalent of our reserve forces

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  • N. A. Corbier
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    I wonder how many people know the difference between a state's National Guard, and their State Guard.

    Except for Texas, who holds regular drill, I have never heard of a state guard who is actively used, they rely mostly on the National Guard.

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  • gcmc security part 2
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    EMT

    Out of curiosity were the State Guard used at all after Katrina?

    [thread steal]

    Also you still working at the plant as a EMT/SO? If so I may be picking your brains shortly due to a bid we are getting ready to put together

    [/thread steal]

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  • EMTGuard
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    Originally posted by SpecialAgentKC View Post
    I'm a combat veteran and continue to serve in law enforcement/intelligence in the state guard.

    --K.
    Cool. A fellow State Guardsman. I joined the La SG after getting my honarable discharge. I hold the rank of Staff Sgt/E-6. Unfortunatly La doesn't really have any mission for it's State Guard outside of paid positions such as cadre working alongside National Guard at Youth Challenge and some MP postions at select bases. Volunteers like myself have no drills, don't get called for emergencies and don't have regular contact with anyone from the Military Department. I'm currently inactive and have been for about 5 years. Until this year I had been a member of the State Guard Association of the US but have let my membership lapse.
    Wellcome to the forums.

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  • JSam21
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    Originally posted by Hank1 View Post
    Hello! Welcome to the circus!

    Be safe,

    Hank
    Thats what that music I keep hearing everytime I get on here is... good. I thought I was going crazy.

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  • Hank1
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    Hello! Welcome to the circus!

    Be safe,

    Hank

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  • Maelstrom
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    Welcome aboard!

    More varied experience/backgrounds make for some informing discussions

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  • DeputyJ
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    Hello,

    Welcome to the forum.

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  • Bill Warnock
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    Welcome indeed. After you have read all the threads, share with us your thoughts and what you think are both right and wrong with some of them.
    Enjoy the day,
    Bill

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  • CAPTAIN KOOLAID
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    Welcome

    Welcome to the group.

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