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  • #31
    Nathan, let him read the guide and TSCM materials I sent you. Lock and padlock the door and bar the windows because he'll try to escape.
    Security is not the clean fun business many laymen believe it to be.
    I made some changes to the guide and will send it after a review.
    Enjoy the day,
    Bill

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    • #32
      policy

      I am trying to send you a copy of my hospital security policy, just as a guide. The basic policy and principle here is "equal amount of force". That means if someone punches me i can punch them, if they use a baton, i can. Other policies also include "privacy of medical information", "protecting people and property, first aid policies and fire policies, occupational health and safety policies and many more. Keeping up with policies and procedures is not an easy task, that's why most managers have them on hand( just before they repramand you,they do their homework).
      We haven't had trouble for a while, Let's cancel security!

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      • #33
        Bill: When I recieve it, I'll pass it on. The guy's a 12 year EMS vet, as well as 10 year LE vet. He's been on SIW and has looked at the stuff you post, and "yelled" at me about "Where did you find this guy?! Why isn't he anywhere I am?!"

        Crankloud, you can send it to me at nacorbier (!at) cityscapesolutions.net

        I can read any file format on the face of the Earth.
        Some Kind of Commando Leader

        "Every time I see another crazy Florida post, I'm glad I don't work there." ~ Minneapolis Security on Florida Security Law

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        • #34
          Originally posted by crankloud
          I am trying to send you a copy of my hospital security policy, just as a guide. The basic policy and principle here is "equal amount of force". That means if someone punches me i can punch them, if they use a baton, i can. Other policies also include "privacy of medical information", "protecting people and property, first aid policies and fire policies, occupational health and safety policies and many more. Keeping up with policies and procedures is not an easy task, that's why most managers have them on hand( just before they repramand you,they do their homework).
          We use the one-plus-one theory in use of force. I can respond one level higher than the force used against me (if the person tries defensive resistence I can use pain compliance techniques to get them to stop). Our use of force policy also dictates use of force reporting, medical attention requirements, authorized equipment and who can carry them, and state law covering use of force, etc... It has become quite lengthy itself.

          Medical information privacy at our hospital can be summed up in one acronym - HIPPA.

          As for the managers only reviewing a policy at reprimand time - ain't it the truth. Our Director of Security doesn't keep our policies current, one of the Supervisors takes that task on and our Director signs off later on them.
          Last edited by aka Bull; 05-17-2006, 02:46 PM. Reason: spelling
          "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." -Aristotle

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          • #35
            Originally posted by crankloud
            I am trying to send you a copy of my hospital security policy, just as a guide. The basic policy and principle here is "equal amount of force". That means if someone punches me i can punch them, if they use a baton, i can. Other policies also include "privacy of medical information", "protecting people and property, first aid policies and fire policies, occupational health and safety policies and many more. Keeping up with policies and procedures is not an easy task, that's why most managers have them on hand( just before they repramand you,they do their homework).
            First off, it is great to see a thread on Hospital / Clinic Security. Perhaps this will take off and we can have a new category established?

            Being new around here, most of you don't know me. I am a Manager of Security for a 240 bed hospital facility with an attached 140 bed PCH (Personal Care Home) and a 95 unit "assisted living" complex (unattached but on the same campus). Our facility is not a major trauma center but does come with all the dressings like Psych, Outpatient clinics, a huge Rehab centre as we specialize in Orthopedic surgery like knee and hip replacements.

            Our team is responsible for Physical Security, parking and 1:1 or "constant care" or Mental Health Act patients or intox. patients.

            I have been tasked with reviewing and revising our current policy and procedure manual. This is where I need your help. I wrote the manual two years ago and have added/ammended what I can.

            Is there any other hospital or similiar site managers/supervisors /officers that can send me a copy of their P&P or SOP's to compare notes and see if I am missing anything?

            Hi crankloud - you offered to send to another gent, can I also get a copy of your info?

            Any help would be greatly appreciated!

            Thank you,

            Alan
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            Keep an open mind, but not so open that your brain falls out! - Unknown

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            • #36
              policies.

              I am currently trying to post copies of relevant policies and procedures manuals to all forum readers, but have had no success yet. I will keep trying. Someones yahoo address would be alot easier to download these. Thanks. Tony.
              We haven't had trouble for a while, Let's cancel security!

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