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  • Secure Permagrin
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    after my trip to Florida last week I have decided I agree with the border security and think the people, their criminal history, should all be monitored, and any one who is here illegally should have to apply for a visa or be deported. Furthermore there should be a quota as to how many immigrants are allowed in.

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  • Rooney
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    Originally posted by Secure Permagrin View Post
    i dont wanna see people get kicked out of the us, and i dont want americans losing job opportunities from people who dont belong here.
    As for not seeing people get kicked out, I have 2 opinions on this.

    1. They broke the law already. They should be held accountable. Even if it is go back to their home country and file for a visa. If they do not do that within a certain period of time (say 6 mo.), they get deported and are not allowed to file for a visa for at least 5 years.

    2. People are in line for visas all over the world that have paid and waited for approval. Why should they have to wait longer because someone decided to enter illegally and take their place. For the people that are going through legal channels they should get first priority over anyone here illegally. So in that case ship them back and put them at the end of the line.

    If someone is so blatent at disrespecting our laws that they cross into the U.S. and then say we owe them, DEPORT DEPORT DEPORT, and not give them the right to file for 10 years.

    I have nothing against anyone from any country that is not a criminal trying to enter our country. We were founded from many countries. E pluribus unum is not only, in my opinion, out of many states one country, but also, out of many countries one nation. But how can we expect new immigrants to respect our laws if they intentionally break them right out of the gate.

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  • Secure Permagrin
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    i dont wanna see people get kicked out of the us, and i dont want americans losing job opportunities from people who dont belong here.

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  • Rooney
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    Originally posted by N. A. Corbier View Post
    Neither side will go for anything more than full blow Anmesty, specifically for one (very large) segment of illegals, which has the backing of a very powerful political lobby. The opposing side wants tougher enforcement of immigration laws.
    I agree completely. All I want is absolutely NO amnesty. It is a slap in the face for all the people that have waited patiently for their visas to be approved. It will also create an even bigger influx until the border is secure.

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  • Rooney
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    Originally posted by Eric View Post
    I did not read each document listed, and in trying to further explore this, does all the associated monies do anything to address the problem?
    Nothing is as simple as, address the problem = lessing the long term costs VS. pour money at stopping the flow.
    (I do agree totally with stronger border protection)

    There are jobs that American's do not want, there are illegal's that obviously want them and Employer's that are obviously hiring for those jobs!

    Why not take some of the resources to set up an employment center that transports / tracks / deducts income tax's from a preselected few thousand for each growing season...
    As anywhere, a few of the people will give you the most problems, but cheaper labor keeps costs down.
    They have employment companies that do that with European and Russian workers. They get a 2 year visa to work here from the employment agency in their home country. They then have jobs ready in this country for them. After 2 years they must return to their home country for 1 year before re-applying for another 2 year term. After the process is completed 3 times (8 years) thay can apply for permanent resident status.

    The jobs Americans don't want theory I do not believe. Agriculture jobs require alot of immigrants because of the numbers needed, the seasonal work, and the limited pay. We should have a seperate visa program for that. Other than that I think Americans want and still do all other types of work. The problem is when you have so many illegal workers working at a lower wage it brings the whole wage system down for everybody. Thus less tax revenue and benefits, as well as making it harder to achieve the "American Dream".

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  • N. A. Corbier
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    Neither side will go for anything more than full blow Anmesty, specifically for one (very large) segment of illegals, which has the backing of a very powerful political lobby. The opposing side wants tougher enforcement of immigration laws.

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  • Eric
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    I did not read each document listed, and in trying to further explore this, does all the associated monies do anything to address the problem?
    Nothing is as simple as, address the problem = lessing the long term costs VS. pour money at stopping the flow.
    (I do agree totally with stronger border protection)

    There are jobs that American's do not want, there are illegal's that obviously want them and Employer's that are obviously hiring for those jobs!

    Why not take some of the resources to set up an employment center that transports / tracks / deducts income tax's from a preselected few thousand for each growing season...

    As anywhere, a few of the people will give you the most problems, but cheaper labor keeps costs down.

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  • Rooney
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    Secure Border Initiative(SBInet)

    The Secure Border Initiative is now in the testing phase. I would like other opinions on the initiative and how it will impact Homeland Security and the Security industry in our country in general. The test area is only about 30-40 miles from me, so I do have a stake in the situation. As some of you may know the Border Patrols ISIS program came under heavy fire for accounting practices and reliability. I would like to know if you see any downsides to the SBInet program. The mix of technology allowing a "common operating picture" (COP) to the command centers and the people in the field, I think, will greatley enhance the efficiency of the field agents as well as allow faster response. I strongly think that the way the SBInet is panning out will become a great asset for our security. Here are some links to the program for your review.

    DHS Sbinet page: http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/border_security/sbi/

    Boeing SBInet page: http://bts.boeing.com/ids/advanced_s...net/index.html

    Press release on portable towers: http://www.boeing.com/ids/advanced_s...ct28Towers.pdf

    The project near me: http://www.boeing.com/ids/advanced_s...t_p28_0407.pdf


    Any thoughts.

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