Guards behaving badly

[FireEMSPolice]

I am yet to see anything too radical concerning the subject personally, although I've heard my fair share of stories concerning colleagues and former employees naturally.

There's these older guys working one of the sites that I regularly do shifts in as well, and sometimes I've seen these old timers just sleeping and snoaring very loudly in the monitoring room, which is a fairly coarse mistake, I'd say.

One of these old timers was posted here a few months back and during the shift the officer is required to keep one PMR-phone on at all times so that the personnel of our client can communicate and request the assistance of the security guard in case something comes up.

Someone from the site needed a key, which was located in the monitoring room where this security guard was wide asleep and didn't even have the PMR-phone on. Everybody tried to wake the guy up by loudly knocking on the door and eventually even banging on the door very aggressively, but this fellow just kept dreaming.

Eventually he woke up, and everyone was very angry. They asked the officer why didn't he have the phone on, to which he calmly replied "oh, everything was so quiet that I decided to keep it off".

That was a was very childish mistake from a guy who had been on the job for at least 20 years and on top of that he was a site supervisor of another location. This sort of stuff made me question our choice of supervisors once again, but what you can do? It is a given that this is a very quiet site, but that phone is supposed to be turned on at all times so that if something comes up you can call for assistance from security.

I decided not to report this, since I had only heard of the incident via second-hand information. This does prove though, that older guys who have done this for a long time tend to get sloppy once they are transferred to a "quiet account".

Where I work, having knowledge of an incident or violation of company policy, and not reporting it to a Supervisor will get you canned.

[flashlightcop509]

Figure it's been long enough since the incident sooo....

Had an officer at one account, where we were responsible for bringing fresh "banks" (zipper bags of Moola) to client locations and bringing the day's receipts from these sites back to the client office to secure in the company safe; well, the young (like 19 young) lad (with the company a tad over 6 months) decided to brag to his buddies about how he drove around to these sites carrying around $$$$$ in cash, at night, in remote locations, unarmed...

Did I remember to say "Unarmed"?

Surprisingly, guess who got robbed at gunpoint at one of these sites; the one at 0430 in the middle of nowhere that hasn't been so much as looked at under normal circumstances until... Yep, you guessed it. The officers "buddies" decided to lay in wait knowing when to expect him and robbed him at gunpoint (turned out to be a BB gun) once he had unarmed the shack and the safe...


Even older incidents:

Had 2 officers at the same resort account; one incident was a case of numerous gallons of gasoline had been stolen from a locked shack. When questioned, one officer denied being the one who stole the gas, right up until he was positively identified on hidden CCTV that was watching the shack...

The other incident was when our site officers would go on "outer patrol", meaning driving to check on several other client buildings not in the immediate area (usually at around 2030 and again at around 2330 or 2400, a single round could last 2+ hours). these sites had no way to record actually being there other than time arrived and time departed on the officers report. The officer would start his outer patrol, call his girlfriend and let her know he was on his way, and she would meet him on one of the client's properties and they would "make out" with each other until a suitable time had lapsed for the officer to come back from his rounds... He was eventually caught when things were found later to be unsecured even though his report said "all secure", showing that he never actually checked the buildings...

[tanko]

Where I work, having knowledge of an incident or violation of company policy, and not reporting it to a Supervisor will get you canned.

That's the way it should be. I've had the unfortunate pleasure working at places that were written up for spreading rumors if it was second hand information. It makes

The other incident was when our site officers would go on "outer patrol", meaning driving to check on several other client buildings not in the immediate area (usually at around 2030 and again at around 2330 or 2400, a single round could last 2+ hours). these sites had no way to record actually being there other than time arrived and time departed on the officers report. The officer would start his outer patrol, call his girlfriend and let her know he was on his way, and she would meet him on one of the client's properties and they would "make out" with each other until a suitable time had lapsed for the officer to come back from his rounds... He was eventually caught when things were found later to be unsecured even though his report said "all secure", showing that he never actually checked the buildings...

I had a supervisor that would occasionally leave notes, or just wait for us in a particular building while we did our checks just to make sure we were doing them. She promised to stop leaving the notes since we always found them. Well, while coming back on shift after my Fri-Sun off, and Monday being a federal holiday I found them. I called her as usual. She said that the notes were for the other shifts to find, and nothing was checked for three days!

[zm88]

I ran into this guy and it reminded me of my early days at the rink. Our head of security was a joke, he was usually the first knocked down in a fight and told stories about his days as a marine in an attempt to intimidate people (I've yet to disprove him as a former marine but im about 90% sure he never served). We'll call him "Harry". The site was chaos, thats the only way i can describe.it. Fights jumping off every 10 minutes, large gang presence and a total hate and resentment for anything authority related.
we had an irate adult male come in one night looking for the kid that jumped his son (his son was never attacked we later found out) and attempted to make entry. Harry tries to push the giy out but instead gets pushed.back and falls down, he then resorts to.his p.o.s. baton from.the army store and snaps it out only to.have it collapse on him. We had to leave the floor and move this guy outaide.before he.beat Harry down. Harry also tried some crazy leg spin kick move one night.only to get his leg stuck between the double.doors.and.the door repeatedly slammed on it causing him to go to the hospital. Another time Harry wanted to "show our power" and picked a random kid (who happened to be a gang affiliated with one of bostons most violent.at the time) and told.him to.screw. That was one.pf the.worst brawls I've.been.in, and it could've been.avoided if.not for this guy acting like an idiot. There are.many more Harry stories, (PM me of you're really interested) some i wouldn't dare poat on a public forum. Harry ended up getting fired afyer we had a fairly large disturbance that THE police had to come assist with, and.Harry was no.where to.be fpund. I later learned he was.booting.dope in the bathroom and had turned off his radio as to not.be disturbed. The aite calmed down after 2 years of is being there and is a great family fun place now. I took Harrys job after and left after 6 years. Ill never fprget that place as i learned alot and it was my first security job.

[copelandamuffy]

I will say this one more time. There is a flip side to all this
If you have good people. let them know they are doing a Grand Job

A little TLC and hugs goes along way
"Atta boy" and "Atta Girl" is plus

I have four Guards under my wings, and I have been Site Supervisor for "8" years

Guard # One. Eight years
Guard # Two. Six Years
Guard # Three. Three years
Guard # Four. One Year

Yes I have had my share of idiots. Liars and Guards who beleived they lived by their own rules, not mine or whom we work for
They no longer work for me.

[jeff mcmaster]

Always remember that one aw sh88 wipes out all atta boy/girls.

[rpmacmurphy]

I have a few stories from my days in the world of private security:

1.) We had a guard take one of the tactical golf carts home with him to take his girlfriend out on a date in.

2.) I once caught one of our guys off duty in his dress uniform trying to pick up chicks at the mall.

3.) During Aerial Platform Ops training, we had a guard show off his bag of weed during one of the landings. Needless to say, he doesnt work here anymore.

4.) One of our guys was caught soliciting a prostitute on his lunch break. That was an interesting call to receive...

I'm sure I'll think on more later, theres a million of em..

[Squid]

'cop wanna-bees'.

The Cop Wanna-Bees are worse, IMO, and will try to involve YOU in their nonsense, which can lead to REAL TROUBLE(not just getting canned from low paying job).

One thing about the nature of Security and "visual deterrent" is you almost CAN'T 'goof off'. Goofing off means being in a different, unexpected location which will keep the bad guys guessing.

BOTH times I've surprised burglars in the act on rounds, I was making the round about 45 minutes late because I had dozed off. Coincidence? I don't think so. I'm about 99% sure they were also employees who were often on the late shift and familiar with my schedule.

[TOII]

'cop wanna-bees'.

The Cop Wanna-Bees are worse, IMO, and will try to involve YOU in their nonsense, which can lead to REAL TROUBLE(not just getting canned from low paying job).

One thing about the nature of Security and "visual deterrent" is you almost CAN'T 'goof off'. Goofing off means being in a different, unexpected location which will keep the bad guys guessing.

BOTH times I've surprised burglars in the act on rounds, I was making the round about 45 minutes late because I had dozed off. Coincidence? I don't think so. I'm about 99% sure they were also employees who were often on the late shift and familiar with my schedule.

It is nearly always bad to establish a pattern.

[Trunk Monkey]

This could go in the bad guards or bad employers file; I worked on one site where one of the guards had severe urinary incontinence issues.
Every chair he sat in, he pissed in. every time he went out on patrol he pissed in the seat. The guard office, as well as the patrol vehicle, reeked of piss.
Every guard on that site begged the office to dismiss the guard but they wouldn’t do it because they were afraid he’d sue for wrongful termination.