Guards behaving badly

[zm88]

This could go in the bad guards or bad employers file; I worked on one site where one of the guards had severe urinary incontinence issues.
Every chair he sat in, he pissed in. every time he went out on patrol he pissed in the seat. The guard office, as well as the patrol vehicle, reeked of piss.
Every guard on that site begged the office to dismiss the guard but they wouldn’t do it because they were afraid he’d sue for wrongful termination.

yikes....and i thought a supervisor with bleeding trackmarks was bad

[Trunk Monkey]

yikes....and i thought a supervisor with bleeding trackmarks was bad

The company didn't fire him but they asked him to get a letter from his Dr. stating that he was fit for duty and as they feared he did attempt to sue for discrimination.

[capurato]

This could go in the bad guards or bad employers file; I worked on one site where one of the guards had severe urinary incontinence issues.
Every chair he sat in, he pissed in. every time he went out on patrol he pissed in the seat. The guard office, as well as the patrol vehicle, reeked of piss.
Every guard on that site begged the office to dismiss the guard but they wouldn’t do it because they were afraid he’d sue for wrongful termination.

Firing someone or reassigning someone for pissing in a seat constantly generally doesn't fall under wrongful termination unless he can prove its a disability.

[msovfin]

Firing someone or reassigning someone for pissing in a seat constantly generally doesn't fall under wrongful termination unless he can prove its a disability.

At the very least, the constant presence of urine is creating an unhealthy work environment for all the guards.

[Trunk Monkey]

Firing someone or reassigning someone for pissing in a seat constantly generally doesn't fall under wrongful termination unless he can prove its a disability.

All I know is he was trying to sue the company for wrongful termination when he died

At the very least, the constant presence of urine is creating an unhealthy work environment for all the guards.

which was the other guard's complaint, the company response was 'He's just sweating"

[PolarDeer]

Stuff I've witnessed first-hand or heard from reliable sources:
- Falling asleep on the wheel at 20km/h during a patrol round inside a larger industrial area, and promptly crashing the patrol car on a wall, said employee is still employed
- Driving to a quiet area to sleep in the fully marked patrol car for four hours, during which one of the sites the guard was supposed to visit was targeted by thieves who stole ten parked bicycles with a total worth of 10k, said employee is not employed by us anymore
- Neglecting to take the keys off the patrol car when visiting a building for a routine patrol tour, resulting in the said car along with keys to twenty different client sites being stolen
- On a night shift on an industrial site waking up the client company's head of security on his "available 24/7" number only intended for worst emergencies because the site's fire alarm system had announced that a single smoke detector had just gone off-line
- During a night shift using a site's CCTV system to record a dancing video, then adding audio and posting it on Facebook, two guards responsible got fired when the site manager found out about it
- Guy showing up to a training shift carrying unlicensed OC spray and an equally unlicensed expendable baton. (In Finland you need a separate license to carry pepper spray while you cannot even buy an expendable baton unless you're in charge of equipment acquisitions for a security company or a licensed use of force instructor)
- Using a retail site's CCTV system to stalk female cashiers and other employees until being caught by the store manager. As a result, the rest of us who'd actually want to use the system to nick shoplifters have to deal with now having a single camera available, specifically the one covering the entrance.

[Jaeger]

- Falling asleep on the wheel at 20km/h during a patrol round inside a larger industrial area, and promptly crashing the patrol car on a wall, said employee is still employed

Taking into account that mobile patrol officers often work 12 hour shifts and at night, it may mess with your physical and mental health sooner or later. In worst cases the car patrol work will work both against your physique and mental abilities. It is a very dangerous line of work when you think about all the long-term effects it has on your body.

I used to know a few young guys that did the mobile patrol thing at night, but after a year or two they had trouble sleeping and eventually their whole sleeping cycle got turned upside down.

I think that the "car-thing" gets harder the more years you got on you. That is the main reason why you tend to see younger guys and girls in those circles anyway, since they require a smaller amount of time to revive from night work- but it will all change when you put on more years, I believe.

And to bring something new to the table, which is still very much "on topic", I remember hearing about this one mobile patrol officer from the very late nineties who apparently conducted his shifts with a military helmet on while driving the car and apparently even tried to take part in police chases of speeding subjects.

[PolarDeer]

Taking into account that mobile patrol officers often work 12 hour shifts and at night, it may mess with your physical and mental health sooner or later. In worst cases the car patrol work will work both against your physique and mental abilities. It is a very dangerous line of work when you think about all the long-term effects it has on your body.

I used to know a few young guys that did the mobile patrol thing at night, but after a year or two they had trouble sleeping and eventually their whole sleeping cycle got turned upside down.

I think that the "car-thing" gets harder the more years you got on you. That is the main reason why you tend to see younger guys and girls in those circles anyway, since they require a smaller amount of time to revive from night work- but it will all change when you put on more years, I believe.

And to bring something new to the table, which is still very much "on topic", I remember hearing about this one mobile patrol officer from the very late nineties who apparently conducted his shifts with a military helmet on while driving the car and apparently even tried to take part in police chases of speeding subjects.

The patrol the incident I mentioned occured on was 8 hours, drove it a lot as a regular myself and still driving it occasionally. But I agree that patrol work isn't suited for everyone due to the unusual working rhythms, and would mention that the said sleep-driver was pulled off patrol as a result of the incident. She also had to compensate for the damages caused as the car went into maintenance was a result.

[Jaeger]

I wouldn't recommend night time jobs for anyone for longer periods of time. Sadly alot of what's included in this business of ours goes on at night.

Personally I think one of the worst jobs on the long term that one can have in this line of work is night-time mobile patrol, but that's just me. Mainly the reason why I detest that line of security work is because a person is required to constantly keep himself or herself alert on the wheel while the working hours often happen at times of the day when a human being should be resting.

It is an unhealthy choice for anyone, but some folks seem to like it. It is just that alot of people don't understand what sorts of ailments your body can achieve from turning your normal daily rhythm around and forcing yourself to sleep the days and then function during the night by doing both hectic, physically and mentally demanding work.

A human being is supposed to sleep at night, not work against himself by doing these sorts of really uncomfortable duties at nocturnal hours and beyond.

.. These are just my two cents.

[TOII]

The key is that it isn't a reversal of the natural rhythm for everyone. Some of us are designed with nights in mind.