05-18-2010, 08:52 PM #21
"To win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the highest skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the highest skill." Sun-Tzu
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05-18-2010, 10:23 PM #22
For your benefit, I quoted the posts you probably should have let sink in:
As far as this goes:
05-18-2010, 10:28 PM #23
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05-18-2010, 10:42 PM #24
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There's a company in BC that I could make posts about every time they do something horribly wrong (which is often), but I don't. It's not relevant in the grand scheme of things. If you want to criticize and slander companies, go someplace else to do it. You are part of a community here with people with extensive experience in security and everything related to it, and SIW is a great pool of knowledge to learn from. Honestly, the people here have better things to do than slander Avalon over and over again.
05-18-2010, 10:45 PM #25
05-18-2010, 11:22 PM #26
Have I missed something here? Has someone from on high come down and censored anything? Because I haven't seen it, just speculation. So I don't think we should accuse our hosts (SIW & staff) of censorship if they haven't committed it. Unless I did miss something.
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05-19-2010, 12:43 AM #27
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I frequent many websites and see companies, products, and services absolutely trashed all the time! I am not talking about small mom and pop outfits either, I am talking about people tearing apart the new Apple Ipad, Microsoft products, large hotel chains and car makers.
This is the first website that I have seen that restricts negative comments about companies, products, and services.
It is protected speech. There is nothing wrong with giving your opinion about a company on the web, even if it is a very negative opinion.
Think of it this way, if it was easy to regulate what is said on the internet about a company, don't you think the international companies (Apple, Microsoft, Hilton, Wal-Mart, etc, etc) with BILLIONS AND BILLIONS of dollars and hundreds of lawyers would have found a way to stop the negative comments and shut down the websites that allow negative dicussion of them and their products?
05-19-2010, 01:47 AM #28
2. It is not protected speech. Much like my ability to tell you to stop saying something or leave my home, this is a private forum and the owners have a right to restrict whatever goes on here. Your 1A right does not extend to private domains. Sorry.
3. Corporations have sued for libel and slander, google it.
Again, the point is that this a professional forum for professionals and some are acting like children on a playground.
05-19-2010, 02:52 AM #29
Look, people from MN (dispite popular belief) do not only discuss Avalon. We discuss many other companies too. They just happen to come up a lot. Whatever states everyone else is from, I'm sure there are companies talked about from there too, by members from those areas. I don't read about them, because frankly, I don't care. And why would I care or get concerned about what anyone else has to say about a company where they live. If it's about a company in MN, I'm interested, wether I have worked for them or not. **DISCLAIMER** I have never worked for Avalon, nor do I know anyone that has
I don't read every single thread on this forum. If it doesn't interest me, I skip to another thread. I do not cry and whine in a post about how I do not want to read about that certain thread. That, is immature. Nobody said I have to read every thread. Nobody else has to either.
But, I'm glad to see people venting, that's why I started this thread. So, wether I agree with you or not, keep your opinions comming...
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05-19-2010, 05:55 AM #30
Maybe we could end this thread with lots of kind words about Avalon and Dan "the man with a golden gun" Seman? Anyone have something good to say? Anyone? Ok, i'll start. Google won't search for Dan Seman because it knows that you don't find Dan Seman, he find you!
Dan Seman doesn't sleep, he waits. I am sure there are other people who have some fun facts to share about him as well.ATTN. SPECOPS AND GECKO45 my secret username is CIDDECEP and I am your S2. My authorization code is Six Wun Quebec Oscar Fife. Your presence here is tactically dangerous and compromises our overall mission parameter. Cease and desist all activity on this board. Our “enemies” are deft at computer hacking and may trace you back to our primary locale. You have forced me to compromise my situation to protect your vulnerable flank. This issue will be addressed later.