when it isn't profitable?
Our campus budget gurus are looking to cut our already anemic department even more. We have already been reduced to one officer/shift. With a largely student force, this is a big problem.
This especially become evident over the summer when they only run one guard per shift. We are located in an area with a large number of wild, sometimes dangerous, varmints, so it is preferable to have at least two guards on at a time. We have had incidents compounded in the past due to a lack of bodies to respond.
How does one convince them of the need? Is it even possible? Do I have better odds of winning the lottery?
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Thread: How do you "sell" security
04-13-2010, 08:46 PM #1
How do you "sell" security
04-14-2010, 12:15 AM #2Senior Member
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At a company in the past we actually had a guard treed by coyote's. One of the weirdest radio call's I ever got.
Humor aside, the main concern for them (but they won't admit it) is money. If the crime goes up they will do it for liability but the odds are sadly it's better to get a side job during the summer.
If you work for campus security it is a plague... you don't have anything BUT campus so when it's slow you don't have anything else to rotate over to. You might see if the campus can swing you into another job if your looking for hours like lab assistant or stock person for some supply or bookstore place to do part time in addition to security till summer's over. As your already working there it should be a shoe in.
Best of luck
04-14-2010, 12:51 AM #3
Colleges are interested in one thing and one thing only - getting students.
Any college administrator should already know that campus safety is a VERY big deal for parents, especially, when choosing a college. However, yours seem to have lost sight of this fact (or the bean-counters aren't aware of it). Accordingly, show them this article, which is the TOP HIT on a relevant Google search (many others will see it), and have them read item #4 twice:
There's more available if you want it, but they all say basically the same thing: Campus security is a significant college selection factor, and more so given the events that have been well-publicized. College students have unique vulnerabilities and bad things can happen on any campus - big or small - anywhere.
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04-14-2010, 04:28 AM #4
Good luck with the loto.
In my case senior management wants to put us back to 24 hours a day. The hands on owner won't free up some beans to do it.I enforce rules and regulations, not laws.
04-15-2010, 02:10 AM #5Member
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Since one of my sites is a high dollar condo complex, trick i do is when they have the condo association meetings myself or another security rep will attend.
By taking this pro active approach we have gotten a few more contracts..
04-16-2010, 08:23 PM #6
Walk into the clients office and drop a pack of matches on his desk, then say, "It sure would be a shame if something were to burn down.""Alright guys listen up, ya'll have probably heard this before, Jackson vs. Securiplex corporation; I am a private security officer, I have no State or governmental authority. I stand as an ordinary citizen. I have no right to; detain, interrogate or otherwise interfere with your personal property-... basically all that means is I'm a cop."-Officer Ernie
"The Curve" 1998
04-17-2010, 12:09 AM #7
04-18-2010, 06:52 AM #8
Also, I know I feel much better when there is someone on the other end of my radio that understands our P&P and can respond or at least give calm, coherent information to an emergency dispatcher if I get my ass in a bind.
Another benefit of having 2 officers is the accountability. I have sat in the dorm lobby for hours and never saw an officer come through. As it turns out, some officers will sit in the guard house and do nothing if not prompted to get out by another officer or the threat of a supervisory visit<insert shocked face here>. Since they recognize our vehicles, catching them in the act is tough. We are debating putting in a card scan/guard tour system to ensure that rounds get done, even though I HATE them.
We get to sit down with the budget folks in late July before the fiscal year starts, so I am trying to gather enough information that I can go in there fully-loaded.
I am contacting our local LE to see if I can get an area crime report for the past year. I am also in the process of hunting down outside funds to support our department sans budget money. Oh, and I am working on re-working our training regimen so the adminstration can see more competent, capable and professional officers walking around, even if they are students.
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04-18-2010, 01:56 PM #9Commando Leader
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Don't bother with the guard tour system. It only works at certain points.
For the price of a (good) guard tour system, give them radios or cell phones with GPS tracking. This way, if anything bad happens to them, you can locate the radio and hopefully they're near it. Randomly and frequently poll the GPS position of the radio.
Hell, you can do this on the cheap with any GPS unit and a Google Latitude Account. My phone is constantly telling Latitude where the hell I am. There are also hard enabled apps for most phones that will report GPS locations every X seconds.
Radios will do this too, but requires more money.
This way, they're not running around playing "GOTTA GET THE NEXT BUTTON. MUST BE BUTTON #4. MUST DO IT IN 31 SECONDS. GET OUT OF MY WAY, RAPIST, I MUST HIT THAT BUTTON ON TIME."Some Kind of Commando Leader
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04-18-2010, 05:25 PM #10