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    I just can't understand why a Company would feel compelled to advertise that in their listing. Anyone care to stare in disbelief with me?

    http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/sec/1437093892.html

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    unpublished cell phone in NY. Probably a "training" program or scam.

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    Because some people refuse to work for security companies who drug test.

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    I have yet to find a company that doesn't at least do a pre hire drug test.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zm88 View Post
    I have yet to find a company that doesn't at least do a pre hire drug test.
    Mine.

    But I'd rather not post the company name. Some twat will probably email them telling them I think they hire incompetent guards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zm88 View Post
    I have yet to find a company that doesn't at least do a pre hire drug test.
    With an industry that can hire you and have you on site with in 20 minutes is really going to drug test . With the cost associated with testing at $50-$70 an applicant I have yet to find one company that has tested me for security.I have had companies say that I am going to send you in for testing and they never get around to doing it or threaten testing if you screw up . For the most part drug testing has been stated in the job ad to discourage users from applying but this place must be desperate for people to apply and that should tell you volumes about the company. Be afraid be very afraid .
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    I somehow avoided the tests for bloomies and for allied barton, everyone else I've talked to had been tested. I don't why I wasn't, but just about all my friends that work for different companies have all been tested. Seeing how there's no state regulations for security here in MA at least companies are doing something. Then again I've worked security accounts with convicted drug dealers, so maybe not..
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    I was drug tested at Wackenhut and Securitas, never at a smaller security co.
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    Drug testing costs money. Unless the client is paying for it, many guard firms simply won't add the expense of drug testing to the hiring of a guard. Remember, it takes 20 minutes to hire a guard in most of these companies.

    That's:

    20 minutes of pay for the front office person who's "in charge" of getting you your uniform, filling out your new hire packet, and printing mapquest for you.

    About $1.25 USD for the paper, ink, and power to generate that mapquest.

    The W2 form is given out free by the IRS, so unless there's some company paperwork, there's not even the cost of the paper and printing of the new hire packet.

    Also, large security companies can drug test because they absorb the cost of either on-site testing kits (pee in this, screw it shut, then put it in this bag and give it to me), or sending you to a lab. They can also ask for more money from clients in markets that don't require drug testing. And, finally, they might get an insurance discount (risk modifier index.)
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    Here's a tip for smaller companies, to cut costs or to start testing. Buy test kits such as the one's from iCup. It activates in 5 minutes, and you have your reading, and it even has it on a flat side so you can copy it on a copy machine.

    Put it in your policy that the company will test you, and if it comes up positive, will send you for a professional test. Or you can send the kit in for a professional lab analysis. The kits cost around $10 or $12 each, and test for multiple types of drugs. Just google icup, or drug screening, and you'll get a ton of options.

    If they no they'll fail, they'll often tell you and save the hassle. If they fail the self test and know they've done drugs, they probably won't bother to go further.

    BTW, these are also great for parents who have a kid with a problem. Or just to check.

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