Got hired for loomis

[Maelstrom]

I actually wouldn't have hassled them beyond a verbal order, but they always would refuse to comply with my verbal orders, which on two occasions nearly resulted in the drivers arrest.

I'd like to been a fly on the wall for that one...

mjw - "Okay smart *** you're under arrest get out of the vehicle"

driver - "No"


Until they've verified who you are, you're just some bloke in a cop's uniform (and that's how I'd treat you too)

[psycosteve]

Perhaps you misunderstand or simply do not understand how police departments work.

Although I work in an administrative unit, I am still a police officer. As such, anytime I am out and about (say, conducting a threat assessment or even just getting lunch for instance), I am still a police officer and as long as I am in uniform, I do all the normal things a cop would do. I also work approximately 24-36hrs per week on overtime (yes per week) on the street as a patrol officer ... so it isn't like I lock myself in my office for 40hrs a week and never see a bad guy, like you seem to think.

Additionally, in the District, we have something called ALL HANDS ON DECK (AHOD) weekends every other week in the summer. During an AHOD, all sworn personnel from DC's 3 police forces, including desk jockeys (no matter rank), work the streets as a regular patrol officers. This puts about 4,000 police officers on the street during these weekends.

Lastly, this particular situation happened twice last summer when I was working a foot beat in the downtown area. I had a problem with armored car operators on more than one occasion ... I actually wouldn't have hassled them beyond a verbal order, but they always would refuse to comply with my verbal orders, which on two occasions nearly resulted in the drivers arrest.

Just as a friendly reminder DC Cops are not to be messed with , they are almost as bad as PG cops , in fact they recruit from the cesspool but I believe the skimmer works a little bit better on the DC side( sense the crack head stopped being the mayor). In DC if you get a ticket from a cop pray it is not one of the young gung ho rookies, trust me on this . I got pulled over for making an illegal lane change what ever that means , while I am on my way from Tyson's corner to Marlow Heights using the 66 to 50 as a cut through cause 495 was a parking lot . I got searched and get a ticket for having a hard badge in the car ( note not on my shirt , not in my pocket but in the car ), I had my car impounded , and put in a holding cell for 2 hours till they could run my guard card . Good thing I was only wearing my white tee shirt and slacks to drive in or I would have been killed in that holding cell. I get out and my car was impounded 20 miles away in PG , in fact my car was not even at the lot when I got a cab to get it but it still cost me $250 to get it out and then the storage yard wanted to charge me a storage fee on top of that .
I say this just as a reminder that DC does not care who or what you are, if they even think that you are breaking a law your going to get arrested and hassled. You are guilty in till proven innocent not the other way around . DC plays by its own set of rules and the sooner that people realize it the better .

[mjw064]

I'd like to been a fly on the wall for that one...

mjw - "Okay smart *** you're under arrest get out of the vehicle"

driver - "No"


Until they've verified who you are, you're just some bloke in a cop's uniform (and that's how I'd treat you too)

HaHa. This is exactly what was going through my mind ... I was really hoping that he would just comply, since I knew there wasn't much I could do to make him, if he kept ignoring me. But like I said, with an imminent roadrunner, I had to get my assigned block cleared and failure wasn't an option.

[LiveNlearn]

Guys I have another question..when unloading money from a truck whether its for an atm or bank what is the procedure.In other words does one guy place the money the other one watches his back or?

That is generally information that you would learn in training

[Echos13]

Its probably things like, "How to get into the truck." "How to get out of the truck." "How to cover an approach." "No, the gun ports don't work." "If anything happens, drive."

Heh. The Dunbar guys I talk to every day pretty much said the same thing.

[dc5rsx]

ALso I was told in a couple months I would receive my gun permit. Would this mean I will still be a driver or sit in the back seat handling the money??If I am the driver isnt it tru the driver never leaves his front seat which also means there is no need for a gun?!!

[jtwestern]

dc,

These are questions to ask your employer, not here. Also: OPSEC applies. Although most treat it as a joke, it's really stupid to post operational information where anyone can get it.

And before mjw flames me. Yeah. I know all this is well known. But why post intell that will make it easier for me to hit you?

[Maelstrom]

Also: OPSEC applies. Although most treat it as a joke, it's really stupid to post operational information where anyone can get it.

+1 110% agreed!


It's not just your safety being compromised... it's your colleagues as well (better NOT to let the cat out of the bag in the first place)

[SecTrainer]

I never did hassle armored truck drivers. On one occasion I took a truck number and contacted the supervisor about a bit of bad driving I observed. Otherwise, I had a lot of respect for the risks these folks take and didn't care to add to those risks in order to write a traffic citation. On the other hand, I can't say that I saw trucks racing around town, committing all sorts of VC violations or driving carelessly, either. It would have had to be something pretty significant (endangering the public) for me to light up an armored truck. Did they always come to a complete stop and say 30 Hail Marys at stop signs? No...I suppose not, but we didn't have any significant driving problems with them so let 'em get on with their job.

MJW, I'm having a lot of trouble with the motorcade thing, which is simply ludicrous. Someone ain't thinkin', because I can think of six different protocols that would eliminate the need for any armored truck driver to take the word of some slob wearing a cop uniform who happens to walk up to the truck and start yelling orders through the gun port.

[mjw064]

MJW, I'm having a lot of trouble with the motorcade thing, which is simply ludicrous. Someone ain't thinkin', because I can think of six different protocols that would eliminate the need for any armored truck driver to take the word of some slob wearing a cop uniform who happens to walk up to the truck and start yelling orders through the gun port.

There is usually less than a 5 minute window between when uniforms start getting dispatched to clear streets and when the actual movement occurs. There are some additional protocols which happen, but in the interest of OPSEC, I didn't get into that.

Also, in both the cases I was talking about, the armored car operator was already sitting somewhere that they shouldn't have been sitting. The operator probably assumed I was simply trying to hassle them about the parking infraction ... which I wasn't.