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    Default Florida armed guard questions

    Hey there everyone. I've been lurking here for awhile, and I've read a lot of the threads and got a lot of info from them, but I still have a few questions that I'm trying to get answered.

    In a couple of weeks I'll be taking the D & G license classes so that I can work as an armed guard in the state of Florida. I've worked armed security in the past elsewhere, so I'm not really new to the game, just to the regulations particular to Florida. Here are my questions.

    What does the G License shooting qualification course consist of? Target size? Distances? Movement? I've logged a lot of trigger time on my own, but it'd make me rest a little easier if I knew what kind of course this was going to be.

    Secondly, I've seen a few job postings that say they want people with something like a "full" G license, not the temp. one. What's the difference between the two?

    Thirdly, do many of the companies in Florida where people work armed have ammunition policies? I've worked places in the past that require people to carry certain brands and types of ammo, and if this is commonly the case with Florida companies, I'd like to know in advance so I can start looking, since ammo is slightly difficult to come across nowadays.

    If anyone has any other tips, info, or anything else let me know, I'm always learning something new,

    Thanks for the help.

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    The difference between a temp G and a full g is just that one is a temp the other is the Lic as issued by the state. for legal purposes there is no difference except that the regular means your packet has been fully processed and approved by the state.

    Some companies have ammunition polices and others don't. There are state administration guide lines for ammunition that you must follow as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mad_malk View Post
    The difference between a temp G and a full g is just that one is a temp the other is the Lic as issued by the state. for legal purposes there is no difference except that the regular means your packet has been fully processed and approved by the state.

    Some companies have ammunition polices and others don't. There are state administration guide lines for ammunition that you must follow as well.
    Great! Thanks for the info.

    What are the state administration guidelines for ammo? Factory ammo only? I'll be using a 9mm.

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    Factory ammo, no reloads or hot-loads, etc.
    To get the temp, after passing the class, you have to get the company to sign a form so they are in fact vouching for you Before the formal process is done by the state. Not all will do it although some will do it with a pych exam if they really need the help.
    Yes, you will use a 9mm or a 38 special - only choices right now but they are trying to get that fixed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsalla Apopka View Post
    Factory ammo, no reloads or hot-loads, etc.
    To get the temp, after passing the class, you have to get the company to sign a form so they are in fact vouching for you Before the formal process is done by the state. Not all will do it although some will do it with a pych exam if they really need the help.
    Yes, you will use a 9mm or a 38 special - only choices right now but they are trying to get that fixed.
    the psyc is actually mandated by the state for a temp to be issued. It is NOT optional for a temp.
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    Yes, you're right the exam is required, I should have said because of the exam some companies will take the chance. But, it is still a "liability" issue and some companies don't need or want anymore liability.

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    Default Psych Exam..

    To throw my $.20 in(inflation):
    When I applied for my temporary G license,within the last year, I also had to take a Psych exam. The department of agriculture did not want a copy of the exam and my company did not even care to look at it. The agency administering the exam signs you have taken it and the hiring company signs your "certification of character".

    I also had a hard time finding someone to sponsor me for my temporary G. What seemed to work was paying for the psych exam myself and notifying companies that I had it completed already.

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    There is no state law regulating ammo except that you have to utilize .38 ammo in a .357. Companies usually regulate that but the state doesn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gcmc security part 2 View Post
    There is no state law regulating ammo except that you have to utilize .38 ammo in a .357. Companies usually regulate that but the state doesn't.
    Rite and wrong. there is no state law but there is administrative oversite controlling ammunition as issued by the DoACS https://www.flrules.org/gateway/RuleNo.asp?ID=5N-1.129

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsalla Apopka View Post
    Factory ammo, no reloads or hot-loads, etc.
    Does this mean any commercially available new ammo (not reloads), or just "factory ammo" from the major companies (Winchester, Remington, etc.)? You say no "hot" loads, does this mean no +p or +p+?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tsalla Apopka View Post
    To get the temp, after passing the class, you have to get the company to sign a form so they are in fact vouching for you Before the formal process is done by the state. Not all will do it although some will do it with a pych exam if they really need the help.
    OK, I don't quite understand all of this that you're saying here. A few more questions.

    How long does it take for the state to process a D or G License application? Weeks? Months? Years?

    How does the process work after you apply for the licenses? If I'm understanding this correctly, you apply for the G license, and while waiting, a company can sign off on a temp. license so you can work before the processed license comes back from the state. Am I right or wrong here?

    Is the license like a Concealed Weapon or Firearm License where one simply applies to the state, gets it and has it, or are the D and G licenses something that each employer has to endorse before it can be "activated"?

    Am I making sense? I'm trying to get this all sorted out in my head so that I know what to expect.

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