Hello all. I work as Inventory/LP Manager for a small chain of stores. We have top of the line POS equipment and video equipment. I spend most of my time doing my investigations remotely. This sometimes leads clerks to think that no one is watching and checking on them. The owners and I differ on viewing this as an advantage. They feel that if they know that we can view remotely that they will be more sneaky about how they are stealing. And if we keep it all a secret they will be more open. I feel that if we let them all know that we have the capability to check remotely but, not let them know all that we can see, would act as a deterent.
This is all coming to be an issue because I have been catching clerks at an average of three a month. We are a 17 store chain with only an average of 3 employees at each location. I don't know about you but this seems pretty bad.
Should employees know??
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01-12-2008, 08:25 AM #1Junior Member
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Should empoyees know?
01-12-2008, 08:33 AM #2
I would have no problems with letting employees know up front. The fact of the matter is they will forget about it anyway. I think the problem lies within your companies hiring process. So few stores with only three employees per store (in some) and three internals a month tells me someone has dropped the ball in the hiring department.
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01-12-2008, 11:29 AM #3
Also, though you can view remotely, and have video you can review, the reality is you can't watch everything or even very much of it, all of the time. And you can't review everything. So it's more beneficial as a deterrant than actually catching them. If you're catching 3, how many get missed? I'd say let them know, but as you say, not all that you can see.
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01-12-2008, 12:01 PM #4
Except for the obvious exception of a specific covert investigation, I think you're always on better ground in many different ways to let employees know about surveillance capabilities - at least in general terms. This should probably be presented in the context of a broad-ranging discussion of loss-prevention measures that the stores employ (register audits, inventory methods, etc.), and a discussion of the policies regarding theft, etc.We live in a world where a pizza gets to your house quicker than the police. - Anonymous
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01-12-2008, 03:01 PM #5
Where I worked at the store has a policy of taking new associates on a tour of the entire store "during training." The HR Mgr. will also bring any new associate back to the LPM & CCTV rooms to show them around.
I agree that it's sometimes better to let them know what's being looked at but without all the details. Associates don't need to know everything...and if what they do know becomes a deturent then I'm all for it.
What I never did agree with was having to show the associates the inside of the CCTV room. Myself included, we (other LP's) believed that showing them where the cameras could see, even if it was a brief demonstration, was more of a hinderence to the LP staff.
Let them know that they're being watched...sure! Just give out general details. Nothing more nothing less."Life In Every Breath"
01-12-2008, 03:03 PM #6
01-12-2008, 04:49 PM #7Senior Member
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1 of the biggest issues I have with is retail LP believing they are running a secret society where it is all a big secret from other staff. You don't show your full hand or tells playing poker or during an interview so why show everyone everyone you have ?
Most retail staff just see the floor walkers, they don't see the exception reporting, the collation of evidence, the CCTV, the electronic journal monitoring and the targetted register resets, etc. Every induction training course I have held or been a guest speaker at, I say it how it is. I tell them straight as in "some of you will steal from this company and I am letting you know that when you are caught we have a zero tolerance".
So that sets the scene of a no-nonsense RM team and I prefer to then show a demo of an exception reporting system to show HOW we use these tools to identify losses which lead to investigations of discrepancies and the like. Staff need to know that there is more to LP than just floor walking and that internals can be caught using many tools including cctv and IT based reports as well. Get the word out that you are serious about LP and whilst I can't give you numbers, I will let you know from experience that this positive reinforcement will have an impact on your LP results."Keep your friends close and your enemies even closer" Sun Tzu
01-12-2008, 10:05 PM #8Myself included, we (other LP's) believed that showing them where the cameras could see, even if it was a brief demonstration, was more of a hinderence to the LP staff.
There were times when either myself or another LP would be approached by an associate asking about "blind" spots...can we see this or that? It really got to be irritating at times.
Like NRM_Oz said, most of the associates only see us walking the floor...and sometimes apprehending shoplifters. They don't see us working shrink plan reports etc. And we do let them know that it's not worth getting caught because they eventually will and when they are...it's over with. The staff does need to know how much more there is to the work that LP's do. Never show your hand or let them know what you have!"Life In Every Breath"
01-13-2008, 07:44 AM #9
I have no problem with showing the camera room and the capabilities of the cameras. I'm not saying show them very 'nook and cranny' of the store. My recommendation, during the camera room visit, is to shut off all the monitors but one and bring up a register for all to see.
During the orientation talk, tell them about the tools you have at you disposal to protect the companies assets, such as exception reports, EAS, InkTags and the like.
NRM-OZ is correct - Loss Prevention/Security should not be a secret society. I'm among those who have worked long and hard to combat that immage.
01-13-2008, 10:52 AM #10
I see what you mean. That's definately something that I'll bring up the next time around"Life In Every Breath"