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    I also doubt any civil action will be successful. The guard only tased the man as he was running him over. But it was interesting how he chased the man on to traffic and busted his window.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ContractSec Level III View Post
    I also doubt any civil action will be successful. The guard only tased the man as he was running him over. But it was interesting how he chased the man on to traffic and busted his window.
    You can never really be too sure about those things. Im still waiting to hear more on this story as there are tons of questions and not as many answers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wild Dog View Post
    Amen to that, the adrenaline pumping through my veins is what makes this job worth doing. The chasing, fighting, intimidating, that's what I live for not the measly compensation I'm given.
    Wild Dog:

    A true story

    It is a weekday at lunch time. A winter day. Sunny
    You are working at a guard shack. The place you are working is a closed down factory. The road from the gatehouse to main road is probably 150 yards. At the entrance are traffic cones blocking the roadway. Also at the entrance of the road are No Trespassing, and Private Property signs

    You observe walking down the roadway past the traffic cones is a male. 20-25 years old. You walk out of the guard shack, and inform the walker, “This is private property, you are going to have to leave the property” He ignores your demand, but continues to walk toward the gatehouse. You notice what appears to be a knife handle sticking out of his coat pocket. The man seems dazed, and confused

    The trespasser
    walks past the gatehouse, and onto the property of the abandoned factory


    The officer stepped back in the gatehouse, locked the door, and called the local police
    Local police were on the property within 5 minutes, and apprehended this trespasser.
    Wild Dog; You tell us where that Security Officer did wrong, and you would have done different?

    BTW: I have worked contract security for many, many years. Worked for the big boys
    Pinkerton, Burns international Security, Wells Fargo, Securitas.
    In all their training films. Detect, deter, report, and if necessary retreat to a safe haven

    And you write "The chasing, fighting, intimidating, that's what I live for" You played
    Sergent Joe Friday of Dragnet, in this scenario, where you could have Detect, deter, report, and if necessary retreat to a safe haven
    you probably wouldn't have a job after this
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    Quote Originally Posted by copelandamuffy View Post
    Wild Dog:

    A true story

    It is a weekday at lunch time. A winter day. Sunny
    You are working at a guard shack. The place you are working is a closed down factory. The road from the gatehouse to main road is probably 150 yards. At the entrance are traffic cones blocking the roadway. Also at the entrance of the road are No Trespassing, and Private Property signs

    You observe walking down the roadway past the traffic cones is a male. 20-25 years old. You walk out of the guard shack, and inform the walker, “This is private property, you are going to have to leave the property” He ignores your demand, but continues to walk toward the gatehouse. You notice what appears to be a knife handle sticking out of his coat pocket. The man seems dazed, and confused

    The trespasser
    walks past the gatehouse, and onto the property of the abandoned factory


    The officer stepped back in the gatehouse, locked the door, and called the local police
    Local police were on the property within 5 minutes, and apprehended this trespasser.
    Wild Dog; You tell us where that Security Officer did wrong, and you would have done different?

    BTW: I have worked contract security for many, many years. Worked for the big boys
    Pinkerton, Burns international Security, Wells Fargo, Securitas.
    In all their training films. Detect, deter, report, and if necessary retreat to a safe haven

    And you write "The chasing, fighting, intimidating, that's what I live for" You played
    Sergent Joe Friday of Dragnet, in this scenario, where you could have Detect, deter, report, and if necessary retreat to a safe haven
    you probably wouldn't have a job after this
    While I appreciate the well of your experience and take note of the lessons you have to give, I say the security officer in your tale did nothing wrong. I'm not a maniac, he called the cops and they took care of business. However, if the cops didn't show, and the man with the knife started causing trouble then It would be up to me end it. And believe me, I would end it.

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    @ ContractSec level III: Yes, the Bothell incident. The coverage was a bit skewed because the S/Os were told not to say anything, and the cops weren't talking because it was an active investigation. I know guys who work for the company involved, and they are all professionals.

    The kid goes to the alternative high school next door, and they found pills (not specified what they were) in the car or on his person. The FDA parking lot and facility are marked with signs about not entering. Draw your own conclusions...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wild Dog View Post
    While I appreciate the well of your experience and take note of the lessons you have to give, I say the security officer in your tale did nothing wrong. I'm not a maniac, he called the cops and they took care of business. However, if the cops didn't show, and the man with the knife started causing trouble then It would be up to me end it. And believe me, I would end it.
    Expand on how you would have "end it"? Most of the contract security companies, Securitas, U.S. Security Associates, Allied/Barton are "unarmed" security. Knives, firearms, are taboo. What ever martial arts you have been trained in suppose to take over?
    What does the 90 pound, 20 year old college girl suppose to do against this maniac?
    Not all of us have attended the "Bruce Lee, Enter the Dragon School" of kicking the crap
    out of someone.

    BTW: I appreciate your views that it is smarter to call the police. Let them handle it
    And if they did not show, I as you would have done whatever I could to
    protect myself. A chair in the guard shack. A snow shovel outside the gatehouse
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    Quote Originally Posted by ContractSec Level III View Post
    But it was interesting how he chased the man on to traffic and busted his window.
    This is where my problem lies, and IMO, where I think the court's problem will lie. Security Officers are Agents of The Occupant/Owner, we lose our authority the second we're off client property. Also, once the suspect leaves the site--even if he did try to pin you--the threat of immediate physical harm is gone, negating use of force.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Condo Guard View Post
    @ ContractSec level III: Yes, the Bothell incident. The coverage was a bit skewed because the S/Os were told not to say anything, and the cops weren't talking because it was an active investigation. I know guys who work for the company involved, and they are all professionals.

    The kid goes to the alternative high school next door, and they found pills (not specified what they were) in the car or on his person. The FDA parking lot and facility are marked with signs about not entering. Draw your own conclusions...
    Yeah. I'm sure he met his company's UoF policies.

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