I was talking to one of the owners of 1600 acres. He was telling me that he is always chasing people off the property because they are criminal trespassing, hunting and fishing illegally. I was thinking about asking if he would like to hire me to patrol his land. I do not know how much I should charge him per hour. What will be a fair price to quote him?
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06-13-2012, 01:59 PM #1
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How much would you charge to do this job?
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06-13-2012, 04:40 PM #2
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What state is it in...would this be armed work? are you bonded.
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06-13-2012, 09:25 PM #3
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A lot of variables
Yeah, cost of living weighs in a lot. Also, do you have a vehicle capable of the terrain? You'll burn susbstantial gas in order to attempt to effectively patrol 1600 acres. Also, somewhat of a dangerous job. Here the game wardens get a shotgun and AR-15 issued...
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06-14-2012, 04:01 AM #4
$6,389 for first 2 months of contract.....
What state are you in? Does that state require licensing of security officers? Do you have a licensed/bonded security company or are you employed by a company? There are multiple factors that come in to play with a question like that. Length of contract, total.number of coverage per day (24 hr, overnights only?) Armed or unarmed ans how many guards at site.
And it doesnt.end there eitherSergeant Phil Esterhaus: "Hey, let's be careful out there.."
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06-14-2012, 03:06 PM #5
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That about is a fair price. Maybe higher salary
Security Officers need some home base. Gatehouse.
Toilet, running water, phone
Maybe a computer. On call floaters.
Over a period of time, officers would be reviewed, and merit pay raises
If you are living where ZM 88 and I live, what to do in winter. Snow and ice out in this land to patrol
If you are in Arizona, is the Gatehouse have a good a/c?
Uniforms? Warm winter jackets. Comfy shirts in the summer
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06-19-2012, 02:10 AM #6
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Thanks for the information.
Thanks for the information.
The property is in Georgia. I am a full time Police Officer at this time and thought this will be a good part time job. I am going to patrol the property by truck, four wheeler or horse back. Yes I will be armed, I never leave the house without being armed. I was wondering should I get insurance and get a security license to cover my butt. Before I was a Police Officer I worked Security for six years and received my blue card that allowed me to carry as a Security Officer but I have not renew it since I became a Police Officer.
ZM88 how did you figure out $ 6,389 would be a fair price for two months?
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06-19-2012, 08:05 AM #7
If you plan on doing this job then you need an active Georgia license. If you don't have a license you are breaking the law and are subject to prosecution by the Georgia licensing authority and action by the PD you work for. I suspect a legally licensed security agency would report you. All this risk for a side job? Do it the right way and prosper (I did) or risk losing your job.
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06-19-2012, 01:20 PM #8
To the original poster, always take what you get from any online source with a grain of salt, the people to talk to are your PD and the state's private security licensing agency.
I was wondering if Georgia had the same kind of peace officer exemptions my state (Texas) has, so I looked up the Georgia Board of Private Detective and Security Agencies website. They have a link to Georgia's Title 43, chapter 28 statute, which says:
So it would seem that you would need to be employed by a security company, or start your own and get it licensed.ยง 43-38-14. Exceptions to operation of chapter; local regulation
(a) This chapter shall not apply to:
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(b) Any person with a valid peace officer certification issued pursuant to Chapter 8 of Title 35, the "Georgia Peace Officer Standards and Training Act," who is employed by or works as an independent contractor for a licensed: (1) Private security business shall be exempt from any training provisions required by this chapter for such business and shall be deemed to have satisfied all board rules and regulations relative to training; and (2) Private detective business or private security business shall be exempt from further licensure under this chapter and shall be permitted to carry a firearm without obtaining any weapons permit from the board; provided, however, that such licensed private detective business or private security business shall be required to register such employee or independent contractor with the board.
This Last part was interesting though.That looks like an in-house security exemption, whether it would apply to you situation I dunno. Again, a simple phone call to the licensing agency will probably help you out a lot.(d) This chapter shall not apply to a person or corporation which employs persons who do private security work in connection with the affairs of such employer only and who have an employer-employee relationship with such employer. Neither such persons or corporations nor their employees shall be required to register or be licensed under this chapter, although such persons or corporations or their employees may elect to be licensed under this chapter.
In Texas, the peace officer exemption to the Private Security Act is a lot clearer. In Texas, you could easily make a deal with the land owner and patrol his property without a private security license as long as you were a full time peace officer in good standing with your agency and your agency permitted such arrangements (and nothing about the arrangement involved illegal acts, you couldn't guard meth labs LOL). I used to work off duty jobs all the time, got real old real quick though.~Black Caesar~
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06-19-2012, 08:05 PM #9
56/hrs a week @ minimum 12$/hr. 2 months.brings you to $5,326. I threw on the extra $1600 for things like gas, uniform, permits/licensing. Doesn't include if you need to.be.bonded as well. sit with the client, see what the site needs. Overnight shift only, multiple shifts and if you nees tonbring someone elae in for coverage when your not there. You.also need a contract writen up stating length.of contract, services provided as well as penalties and what not if contract is terminated early or said services not provided. In reality the # I gave cohld exceed that, I juat figured 12$/hour was a good base to.start.
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06-19-2012, 08:17 PM #10
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Thanks
Thanks again for the great information I will make a phone call tomorrow to see what I have to do.






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